Baby book for little scots pines

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Last spring I potted up some pine yearlings that were growing in my garden and then I kinda forgot about them... They grew pretty well, being neglected and all.. I just used potting soil with perlite and some pebbles for extra drainage.
I want to train one as a semi-cascade. The others, I don't know yet. I plucked the needles to grow some more branches close to the base There are some buds there already. The leader is left to grow as a sacrifice branch to thicken the trunk. The semi-cascade pushed roots all the way trough the drainage holes, so that's nice.

Next year they will be put in colanders or larger containers with pumice and akadama. Just a fun little side project. This thread will be their baby memory book.

Does anyone have experience with growing scots pine from seed or developing them from at early stage?
 

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Excellent, I started a bunch from seed this last spring so I'll be at about this stage this time next year I hope. In the mean time heres some bare root seedlings i picked up last winter, chopped the tap roots, arranged the laterals, wired up and some set up for negari in a few years. I'm tempted to get more this winter and start more, as well as I've been out collecting seeds this fall.
 

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Next year they will be fed heavily and left to grow vigorously. Then the following year I will make some branch selections and do some wiring to continue the movement. Ive also noticed great back budding where the wires start to bite in. So keep the coil on the outside of
bends when you can.
 

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I like the bends you put in, good job.

I would not have plucked needles on seedlings that are that young. Needle plucking is a technique for older, already styled and in a bonsai pot trees. It is not for seedlings. Needles produce food for growth, in seedlings this young, the effect is to slow growth. Back budding will be better if needles are kept in the area where new branches are desired.

Keep in mind, these are Scott's pine, not JBP. Techniques are different.
 

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Buds pop just below (on the root side) the wire - right?
Dang... diddnt really pay attention if they were cosistantly on one side or the other of the wire. Ill have to go look when I get home. I'm also going wire up a couple thicker branches on bigger trees that have extended a little too far and see if it works....
 

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Dang... diddnt really pay attention if they were cosistantly on one side or the other of the wire. Ill have to go look when I get home. I'm also going wire up a couple thicker branches on bigger trees that have extended a little too far and see if it works....
The circumstances when the wire bites in are analogous to a tourniquet. Above, auxin and photosynthate build up = circumstances favorable to root creation. Below a deficit = circumstances favorable for bud release. I would question wire having anything to do with it if new buds don't exhibit a pattern consistent with these well-established notions.
 

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So it's been a year and 4 months or so since I put these little trees in their pot. They grew extremely well this season! Very rewarding!

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Put some wire on one of the trees to see if it would encourage backbudding (as @Soldano666 suggested) Five buds started growing just beneath the wire.
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I repotted them this year. The cascade is coming along nicely, lots of new growth. I also planted two trees together in order to fuse the root system and create a twin trunk with two trunks emerging straight from the nebari. Also made a similar planting with three trees.

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I may cut this one back next year in order to create some taper. At the moment there are two possible 'trunk lines', one going down, one going up.
I can let the two shoots near the base grow as sacrifice branches.
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I repotted them this year. The cascade is coming along nicely, lots of new growth. I also planted two trees together in order to fuse the root system and create a twin trunk with two trunks emerging straight from the nebari. Also made a similar planting with three trees.

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I may cut this one back next year in order to create some taper. At the moment there are two possible 'trunk lines', one going down, one going up.
I can let the two shoots near the base grow as sacrifice branches.
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I love this stage of the game. I'll snap some pics tomorrow I have a bunch chugging right along and getting thick, also a bunch more I started from bare root seedling again this year. I'm hooked af
 
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