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I’ve recently got 3 Japanese beauty berrys . I’m understand that it’s gonna take a long time to develop them but I like seeing trees develop ! So what should I do to start to develop these ?
 

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@Njyamadori if you start a username with the @ symbbol, that user will be notified of them being mentioned. That might be better than asking in several threads for people to come here.
Thanks so much I was gonna do that but I didn’t know how. also sorry for being annoying on these threads
 
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I just got mine off of EBay last month and trying to get some ideas as far as styling.13DB931A-C28B-4798-8ADF-86EAAB1E0A09.jpeg
 

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Since you've got a multiple, maybe play with one in the line of seeing how small a beauty berry bonsai can be made. Part of that process will be wiring, of course, but also pruning. It is easier to see the response to pruning on a young little specimen, IMHO. I can imagine lots of whimsical forms with a big purple cluster of berries on it ( 😄)! I think it would be lots of fun, but if you tire of the ridiculous little thing you made, you can always grow it out later. Meanwhile you've learned a lot about how to manipulate beauty berries.

btw, I've got some white beauty berries stratifying in the frig right now. I'm gunna do something along these lines next spring (or so I am planning/hoping). One somewhat different idea that I have is to gently wire a few into some wiggles/loops thinking that they may thicken into a fused knot full of nodes. Could be a fast way to a sumo-like image. Dunno, but I'm looking forward to playing!!
 
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I’ve recently got 3 Japanese beauty berrys . I’m understand that it’s gonna take a long time to develop them but I like seeing trees develop ! So what should I do to start to develop these ?
Japanese beautyberries you say...I don’t know if I have any of those 😂

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I have only grown mine for three seasons, but here are a few tips:

1. To thicken the trunk, it’s a better strategy to grow out many low sacrifices and chop them off rather than growing something as an extension of the trunk that goes straight up.

2. You can ground grow them, or grow them in a large pot. For me, I like the control of large pots because I am more attentive to them. The trees I put in the ground I basically forgot.

3. Those trees are so young, I wouldn’t put wire on them yet. Put them in a bigger pot/in the ground and wire them once they beef up more. I have a Beautyberry progression you can look for, not sure how to link it. The mother plant has a pancake nebari and about a 1.5 inch trunk after three seasons. I traded/sold many of the cuttings so I have two more developed trees in pots and two left in the ground.
 

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I just got mine off of EBay last month and trying to get some ideas as far as styling.View attachment 348366
I don’t have a great eye for multitrunk trees, but you want an odd # of trunks. Maybe remove this long and straight trunk and go for something like this.
 

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I don’t have a great eye for multitrunk trees, but you want an odd # of trunks. Maybe remove this long and straight trunk and go for something like this.
Thanks! I was thinking along those lines too, let see what new branches I have to work with in the spring.
 

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I’ve recently got 3 Japanese beauty berrys . I’m understand that it’s gonna take a long time to develop them but I like seeing trees develop ! So what should I do to start to develop these ?
Hello, i don' know this spécies " Japanese beauty berrys "

But to answer your question, about what to do with them, as i already had good results with my palmatum cuttings, in term of growth, I would put them in a flat wood box separately (in 3 separate wood boxes) or together in the same woodbox to make a single or double or triple trunk. I would also work on the nebari and wire the trunks to avoid straight trunks, but it isn't an obligation ;)
 

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Hello, i don' know this spécies " Japanese beauty berrys "

But to answer your question, about what to do with them, as i already had good results with my palmatum cuttings, in term of growth, I would put them in a flat wood box separately (in 3 separate wood boxes) or together in the same woodbox to make a single or double or triple trunk. I would also work on the nebari and wire the trunks to avoid straight trunks, but it isn't an obligation ;)
Thanks so much and I’m very sorry for posting on the thread instead of just putting your name here so you see it. Now I need to go and see how to make wood boxes !
 

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he is a pic of mine, but you can make some differently, and smaller of course. The depth should be 7cm approx, and 40cm x 30cm large to give space for the roots to grow. I don't say it is the best to do that, but i was really surprised of the good result in term of growth with my palmatum.. the growth was beyond my expectations although my cultivation skill is not perfect at all.

here is a pic ->
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For example to make a 40cm x 30 cm x 7cm wood box. you buy some wooden planks (1cm X 7cm X 200cm). you cut them to have 40cm long pieces, and also 30cm pieces. You nail or screw 2 pieces of 40cm with 2 pieces of 30cm to have a rectangle ( 40cm x 30cm = the edges of the box). And finally you add pieces of 40cm on the bottom, that you space out with 5mm (for drainage). Then you staple a plastic fence on the bottom (4mm holes) to avoid the akadama to fall down. That's all.
 

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What are people’s thought on a beauty berry clump style just like Bjorn did his maple ? (Im getting more seedlings so I might)
 

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You could fuse the trunks together like Bjorn did, or you can just use the shoots that come up from the base. They naturally clump.

This is a fused trunk shohin that is two seasons old. This is from one plant, I just kept braiding the suckers together until I was happy with it. Not fully fused, but getting there. It was inspired by this tree that was posted on Bonsai Tonight.
 

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@Tidal Bonsai that is something else I can do. Also now thinking that beauty berry doesn’t get as thick maybe it would be to weird. I meant like this picture but I do love the one you showed
 

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