Before and After, opinions please! my first bonsai.

Wires_Guy_wires

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I personally don't like crossing wires because people told me it looks bad. I used to do them too, but since a year or two I try to think about which branch I'm going to connect with another. Doing this mind game first helps reducing the amount of crossed wires, which in turn gives a smoother look.

I think the wire on the trunk, especially on the lower part, might be a little too tight. It could constrict the sap stream if the tree grows well.
I think the start is good, but if you use some thicker wire, you can make this trunk dance a little (more bends, more elegance) unless you're going for a formal upright tree of course, then this should work just fine.
On the top of the tree there are a few branches on both sides that originate from the same node, this will probably cause some swelling later on and might lead to inverse taper (thick parts high up the trunk). So it might be a good idea to remove some of those in the near future.
All in all a good start! You did not take off too much, which is a good thing!
 

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Nice work! I agree with @Wires_Guy_wires, in the future I would try to avoid crossing wires if possible, and the bar branches at the top are definitively an issue, but if you just cut them, it might look weird since the distance between branches near the top should be shorter than between lower branches:

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How about losing the top and wiring one of the bar branches to be the new leader?

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As to when to prune, I'm not sure, maybe someone else might chime in on that.
 

Munch9

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I personally don't like crossing wires because people told me it looks bad. I used to do them too, but since a year or two I try to think about which branch I'm going to connect with another. Doing this mind game first helps reducing the amount of crossed wires, which in turn gives a smoother look.

I think the wire on the trunk, especially on the lower part, might be a little too tight. It could constrict the sap stream if the tree grows well.
I think the start is good, but if you use some thicker wire, you can make this trunk dance a little (more bends, more elegance) unless you're going for a formal upright tree of course, then this should work just fine.
On the top of the tree there are a few branches on both sides that originate from the same node, this will probably cause some swelling later on and might lead to inverse taper (thick parts high up the trunk). So it might be a good idea to remove some of those in the near future.
All in all a good start! You did not take off too much, which is a good thing!
Nice work! I agree with @Wires_Guy_wires, in the future I would try to avoid crossing wires if possible, and the bar branches at the top are definitively an issue, but if you just cut them, it might look weird since the distance between branches near the top should be shorter than between lower branches:

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How about losing the top and wiring one of the bar branches to be the new leader?

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As to when to prune, I'm not sure, maybe someone else might chime in on that.
I'll be for sure working on that and thinking.
Waiting till begining of spring.
I'm looking forward for a informal upright, a little curve here and there.
 

Munch9

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It needs to grooooowwwwww

for a few years Up-pot every couple of years. Lots of fertilizer.

IMHO

It's hard to leave our trees alone, but that's what you need to do.

Keep up the enthusiasm!
Understood, this was mostly an experiment.
But I will repot it to grow in the next year, what fertilizer do you recommend?
 

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Almost got that scalene triangle going on.. nice enthusiasm!

Many good quality, important information already slung your way.

This tree doesn’t LIVE indoors, does it?

There are going to be certain windows for (Higher probability of success) repots... this a tree species that REALLY likes to follow this rule. Frequent/poorly timed/poorly managed repots kill many trees.... many... trees.

So learn your “windows”. (I know them, buuuut I figure you have a while before you should repot, so you will learn them) We NORMALLY do root-disruption whilst the plants are in “limbo”.. bouncing their energies from top to bottom, top to bottom..while the temperatures “even out” for that particular “period” of the year. (Too many hints?)

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Munch9

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Almost got that scalene triangle going on.. nice enthusiasm!

Many good quality, important information already slung your way.

This tree doesn’t LIVE indoors, does it?

There are going to be certain windows for (Higher probability of success) repots... this a tree species that REALLY likes to follow this rule. Frequent/poorly timed/poorly managed repots kill many trees.... many... trees.

So learn your “windows”. (I know them, buuuut I figure you have a while before you should repot, so you will learn them) We NORMALLY do root-disruption whilst the plants are in “limbo”.. bouncing their energies from top to bottom, top to bottom..while the temperatures “even out” for that particular “period” of the year. (Too many hints?)

🤓
Yes it does live inside, but next to a window that remain always opened.
 

Munch9

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So I'm in doubt about pruning it, when should I do it? Here in Brazil is the beginning of winter, temps go from 10 to 20celsius...
 

Munch9

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Little update to this little guy, even though is winter in my area, the tree have lots of buds in its lower branches!
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So I'm in doubt about pruning it, when should I do it? Here in Brazil is the beginning of winter, temps go from 10 to 20celsius...

Mimicking it's natural cycle is best.

Taking into consideration the "not so natural" placement that is next to an open window in Brazil.......

I've found that winter kills branches naturally, and summer drought kills branches naturally, so the tree is most well equipped to regrow from a pruning during these times as well.

So pruning is best done as close to within a week before spring growth and fall growth as possible.

Sorce
 

Munch9

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Mimicking it's natural cycle is best.

Taking into consideration the "not so natural" placement that is next to an open window in Brazil.......

I've found that winter kills branches naturally, and summer drought kills branches naturally, so the tree is most well equipped to regrow from a pruning during these times as well.

So pruning is best done as close to within a week before spring growth and fall growth as possible.

Sorce
Thank you!
 
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