Bonsai design principles book suggestions?

Gori

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Hi everybody

I have had/seen a few bonsai books and primary topics they cover typically are: the history, purchasing, care, styles, techniques, displaying, diseases, suitable trees etc. It happened so that no books I've seen so far, cover the topic of, I would call it, bonsai design principles. By this term in this case I primarily mean the tree structure and the main "classic" proportions/ratios of each style (where applicable). I have seen some pieces of such information in different sources. For example, bonsaiempire site style page may provide some very basic information I am looking for, like for Formal upright: trunk thickness, the height at which branching begins, the tree top structure. I recall some other guidelines like having the first two biggest branches on sides and the third one should point to the back. Another one is a schema showing how the tip of the trunk, one top end of the pot and the opposite lowest end of the trunk should form a triangle. But so far I did not see a good book or other resource that would be more detailed in this area.

One book mentioned multiple times on this forum is Principles of Bonsai Design by David De Groot -- would that book have the information I am looking for? Any other resources can be suggested?

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Serge
 

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Hi everybody

I have had/seen a few bonsai books and primary topics they cover typically are: the history, purchasing, care, styles, techniques, displaying, diseases, suitable trees etc. It happened so that no books I've seen so far, cover the topic of, I would call it, bonsai design principles. By this term in this case I primarily mean the tree structure and the main "classic" proportions/ratios of each style (where applicable). I have seen some pieces of such information in different sources. For example, bonsaiempire site style page may provide some very basic information I am looking for, like for Formal upright: trunk thickness, the height at which branching begins, the tree top structure. I recall some other guidelines like having the first two biggest branches on sides and the third one should point to the back. Another one is a schema showing how the tip of the trunk, one top end of the pot and the opposite lowest end of the trunk should form a triangle. But so far I did not see a good book or other resource that would be more detailed in this area.

One book mentioned multiple times on this forum is Principles of Bonsai Design by David De Groot -- would that book have the information I am looking for? Any other resources can be suggested?

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Serge
Yes along with Bonsai Aesthetics by Francois Jeker. John Naka 1 and 2.
 

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David DeGroot’s book is the best “modern” book on design in my opinion.

It goes in-depth into why perspective/distance/proportion etc. make a difference in design for bonsai, as well as ratios etc.

Worth every penny!
 

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And you can get it for $35 with free delivery from Stone Lantern.
 

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Welcome to Crazy!

I don't think a book can help.

Question is.....

Which comes first?

Structure or design?

Do you sacrifice design for structure, or structure for design?

Sorce
 

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Yes along with Bonsai Aesthetics by Francois Jeker. John Naka 1 and 2.
I second the John Naka books. That's what myself and my son started with when we started with our sensei Vance Hanna 12-13 years ago...
@Traken thanks for the tip. Will buy the DeGroot book today myself!
 

Gori

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Thanks everybody. Those Stone Lantern deals look pretty attractive.
 
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[QUOTE="sorce, post: 676781, member:

Question is.....

Which comes first?

Structure or design?

Do you sacrifice design for structure, or structure for design?

Sorce
[/QUOTE]

Ah, form versus function. The trick is to have both. The chicken and the egg...
 
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