BRT_Nuts - Important info about Brazilian Raintree Cultivars

[leatherback]

Send me the whole tree

I think that would be near to committing a crime. Import rules for plants into NZ are very strict if I remember correctly.

 

[Clicio]

I think that would be near to committing a crime. Import rules for plants into NZ are very strict if I remember correctly.

I have already told many members of this forum that exporting seeds or saplings from protected native trees such as BRTs is now forbidden in Brazil.
Some decided there are ways to bypass the law. I am not one of them.

 

[Pixar]

Make you wonder why the Brazilian Raintree can only be sold in America ?

 

[leatherback]

Make you wonder why the Brazilian Raintree can only be sold in America ?

It is not a protected endangered species in the US, and there is a propagation line in the USA? By the way, I do not think this is aforbidden species for trade in the EU. There are jut no professional propagators of th species.

 

[Clicio]

Make you wonder why the Brazilian Raintree can only be sold in America ?

Because the Florida growers propagate them. They are not native from the USA.
But easily grown from seeds, from cuttings and air layers, so if there is a market...
Of course there are no laws forbidding anyone to grow and sell them anywhere; but Brazilian native species in risk can not be exported abroad for commercial reasons.

 

[Clicio]

Make you wonder why the Brazilian Raintree can only be sold in America ?

Just to clarify, they are legally sold in Brazil, in batches of 30 seeds or seedlings or saplings. Anyone here can grow and sell them. They just can not be exported without a cientific reason though.

 

[Pixar]

Just to clarify, they are legally sold in Brazil, in batches of 30 seeds or seedlings or saplings. Anyone here can grow and sell them. They just can not be exported without a cientific reason though.

Sort of doesn't make sense really - can only be exported with a Scientific reason ?
Thought a bonsai grower would be a great reason

 

[leatherback]

Thought a bonsai grower would be a great reason

I think tabletops are a great reason too.
Point being is: The species is endangered and in Brazil they are taking measures to reduce pressure on natiive species populations. I would think this make sense?

 

[Bonds Guy]

Sort of doesn't make sense really - can only be exported with a Scientific reason ?
Thought a bonsai grower would be a great reason

Anyone can claim to be a “bonsai grower”. Allowing people to export live BRT plants or seeds for reasons other than valid scientific research would likely lead to people exploiting that thus extinction of wild BRTs follows

 

[Clicio]

The trunk of the my thornless BRT is flaking off in the winter.
I guess I will have to open that wound/big scar on the lower trunk to promote some calousing over.
Somehow I am concerned about it (the scar) going black inside; perhaps @leatherback or @LanceMac10 can chime in and give me a reason for that behavior?

 

[leatherback]

No idea. Could it be just algea growing on it? Slowly deteriorating wood?

 

[LanceMac10]

I would not work that scar. You just create more dead wood. Leave it to heal itself. Large wounds on the trunk should be avoided. Leave a bit of stump that can be cleaned up later. Does leave a bit of a bulge at the site, but they just add to the charm.

 

[penumbra]

Is this actually a wound or is it new bark forming underneath forcing off the older bark?

 

[Clicio]

Is this actually a wound or is it new bark forming underneath forcing off the older bark?

I got the tree with that lower big branch already off. It was a recent chop, so after covering it up with cut paste I let it be.
Now I have noticed the dark bark over the wound - it is not old cut paste - and wondered why black.
Yes, could be older bark. I will take a closer look later today.

 

[bonhe]

The trunk of the my thornless BRT is flaking off in the winter.
I guess I will have to open that wound/big scar on the lower trunk to promote some calousing over.
Somehow I am concerned about it (the scar) going black inside; perhaps @leatherback or @LanceMac10 can chime in and give me a reason for that behavior?

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I would not be worry about it. It looks healthy to me. I can see some callus there. The black stuff is cutting paste I think .
Thụ Thoại

 

[Michigan Tree Murderer]

For all of you that like Brazilian Rain Trees, after some research and info exchanges with @leatherback and others, I have found out that some BRT cultivars are really interesting.
Maybe they are restricted to Brazil only, but I think this info below could help somehow.

1-) First a regular BRT from seed, green flaking bark, zigzag pattern new branches, thorns, vigorous growth in Spring and Summer.
2-) Second a Corkbark cultivar from a cutting, same as above excepting the bark. Rarely blooms.
3-) Third a Greybark cultivar from an airlayer, thornless, bigger leaves, no thorns, no zigzag pattern, and flowers.

I am posting below these 3 kinds of BRTs that I am growing now, so perhaps we can understand their differences, and to keep track of some of my BRTs while they grow.
Enjoy and all comments are more than welcome!
If you happen to have a different cultivar, please feel free to post it in your comments, I will not consider that a hijacking of this thread.

Good stuff! Thanks.

 

[ibakey]

CORKBARK BRT

That one is from a cutting, I have it since 2017.
All the BRT characteristics are present, except for the bark: Flaky bark, thorns, zigzag, rarely flowers.
If left alone its foliage goes crazy in the summer.

The cutting, 2017
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Birds view of the foliage, Summer
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Underview of the foliage, Summer
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Winter, 2020
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The trunk, today
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Hi Clicio, I hope you are doing well!

I am wondering if you have any chances of getting seeds for this rough bark BRT?
I would love to buy some!

It looks really interesting.

 

[Clicio]

Hi Clicio, I hope you are doing well!

I am wondering if you have any chances of getting seeds for this rough bark BRT?
I would love to buy some!

It looks really interesting.

Sorry, unfortunately no.
It's now forbidden to send seeds abroad from Brazil. I am really sorry.

 

[leatherback]

Sorry, unfortunately no.
It's now forbidden to send seeds abroad from Brazil. I am really sorry.

So you are saying we have to come to Brazil and hide them in a dark place for travel?
Guess 2024 needs to be a Brazil year.

 

[Clicio]

So you are saying we have to come to Brazil and hide them in a dark place for travel?
Guess 2024 needs to be a Brazil year.

Yeap.
It has been done before.
Inside a suitcase after a brief stay on the beach at Copacabana, Rio.
Lucky was the fellow that didn't get caught.