Can I dunk a bare root yearling in miracle-gro dilution?

[cmeg1]

Thanks, I've read it somewhere too but I never found the source of that information. I'll see if I can do a deep dive and reel in where this information comes from.
IBA-K is bound to potassium so it doesn't rapidly break down but when I was doing research on auxins I kept running into figures that showed it had a half-life in water that was amazingly short: 4-16 hours.
Kelp is wonderful stuff and I like it, but I'd like to double check the truth before I go around and tell people it contains things that should chemically have broken down during the drying process.
Curious!

Here are picture results anyhow


Kelp and fulvic is very powerful for this effect on trees…….especially trees that backbud good.
Makes a very horizontal growth from a sprouted seedling stage !
Without the kelp and fulvic acid foliar feeding I would of had a different time achieving this budding and lateral growth effect just naturally as it did happen.
I believe it is the fulvic acid as stated that help it along more effectively as a foliar feed.

Kelp as an auxin signal stopper is stated and researched elsewhere how it forces backbuds.
The fulvic acid makes it more profound and slows meristem growth as though the leader was broken.
This happens on extremely little shoots even like down to an inch which I have found very helpful.
The effects on pine seedling cuttings at the very start is great too…**..see the first pics**they are budding and have not even start mature needle production.

A very lateral branching effect on very young zelkova also.

 

[nuttiest]

Maybe see if you can pack some moss or coco fiber around those roots so it has some water retention up there. It might just be a tad bit dry up there.

Yes, It needs to be something that causes humidity below the root tips but does not affix to the structure, something removable later. I think I am going to make a humidity curtain with a tube and some sponge.

 

[nuttiest]

Without the kelp and fulvic acid foliar feeding I would of had a different time achieving this budding and lateral growth effect just naturally as it did happen.
I believe it is the fulvic acid as stated that help it along more effectively as a foliar feed.

Hi Cmeg! Every time you add something to an already successful regimen, how do you know for sure what is working? There would be such little change in your case because you do so many things. A near perfect indoor hydroponics hybid model , freakishly tight internodes there with (Rockwool?) Now it looks like you are using pure perlite there still producing healthy roots with it ... you can't really know can you? Haha
I did see something about the IBA in kelp breaking down at processing time when drying and being exposed to light and that amounts in the manufacturing process can vary greatly depending on method. I will see if it is still in the pdf to get quote.
Anyway, good to see you and beautiful photos.

 

[cmeg1]

Hi Cmeg! Every time you add something to an already successful regimen, how do you know for sure what is working? There would be such little change in your case because you do so many things. A near perfect indoor hydroponics hybid model , freakishly tight internodes there with (Rockwool?) Now it looks like you are using pure perlite there still producing healthy roots with it ... you can't really know can you? Haha
I did see something about the IBA in kelp breaking down at processing time when drying and being exposed to light and that amounts in the manufacturing process can vary greatly depending on method. I will see if it is still in the pdf to get quote.
Anyway, good to see you and beautiful photos.

The perlite is old pictures…….all stonewool now.

Although I am going back to perlite and spahgnum moss for cuttings media and then pot into 3” growblocks.

 

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The perlite is old pictures…….all stonewool now.

Although I am going back to perlite and spahgnum moss for cuttings media and then pot into 3” growblocks.

How difficult is the rockwool to remove from the roots?

 

[Attmos]

I have been trying to see if I can revert a schefflera back to an epiphyte and took it out of its soil about a month ago. I mounted it with no soil on a dead tree branch but put a small amount of spaghnum underneath. It looks like it has a deficiency and needs to be fertilized or something. This is a tree type and not a shrub type, but I want to do more types if I can get this to work.

Has anyone revived something this way?

May I ask why you mounted it on a dead tree branch?

 

[nuttiest]

May I ask why you mounted it on a dead tree branch?

Good question - that may be a limiting factor but I suppose I was thinking of portability. I need to find some live tree locations to see if it is much easier.

 

[Attmos]

Good question - that may be a limiting factor but I suppose I was thinking of portability. I need to find some live tree locations to see if it is much easier.

I'm very green. So I was wondering what the thinking was behind mounting a bonsai on a tree branch, dead or alive. Is it a display, or maybe a method of growing..? I'm just too new to get what it is you're all talking about... what you're trying to accomplish.

 

[Attmos]

Good question - that may be a limiting factor but I suppose I was thinking of portability. I need to find some live tree locations to see if it is much easier.

I'm glad to be of help though, even if it was accidental.

 

[nuttiest]

I'm very green. So I was wondering what the thinking was behind mounting a bonsai on a tree branch, dead or alive. Is it a display, or maybe a method of growing..? I'm just too new to get what it is you're all talking about... what you're trying to accomplish.

Well it might not be good as bonsai, I want to see if I can make some very long roots. I realize this can be done by just taking top layer of soil off occasionally but I want to see the growth rate in air.

 

[Attmos]

Well it might not be good as bonsai, I want to see if I can make some very long roots. I realize this can be done by just taking top layer of soil off occasionally but I want to see the growth rate in air.

Interesting.

 

[cmeg1]

How difficult is the rockwool to remove from the roots?

You don’t.
Easy to understand why people would ask that though.

Stonewool is rock……volcanic basalt stone(lava rock).

 

[nuttiest]

Last time I looked into these I got the impression that it was made of a byproduct from the fiberglass industry. Second, that it was required to crumble some around the root ball for planting out but that looks like in place it is good protection from soilborne diseases. They have these on closeout at greenhouse megastore right now, and you can buy small quantities.

 

[Attmos]

Last time I looked into these I got the impression that it was made of a byproduct from the fiberglass industry. Second, that it was required to crumble some around the root ball for planting out but that looks like in place it is good protection from soilborne diseases. They have these on closeout at greenhouse megastore right now, and you can buy small quantities.

What is a stone wool?

Stone wool insulation is created by spinning molten rock and minerals with steel slag to create a cotton-candy-like wool product. Pressed into rolls and sheets, stone wool creates an incredibly effective insulation with sound-absorbing and fire-resistant properties.

 

[nuttiest]

Pressed into rolls and sheets, stone wool creates an incredibly effective insulation with sound-absorbing and fire-resistant properties.

Yeah I don't remember when I started thinking it was a byproduct. Probably was thinking back then it was too expensive and came up with a sour grapes 'I don't want insulation anyway'.
I have two hard to germinate trees- lychee and starfruit. Will be nice to have something different to try.

 

[Attmos]

Yeah I don't remember when I started thinking it was a byproduct. Probably was thinking back then it was too expensive and came up with a sour grapes 'I don't want insulation anyway'.
I have two hard to germinate trees- lychee and starfruit. Will be nice to have something different to try.

Until I looked, 2 hours ago, lol.. I had no freaking idea. So I'll say thank you, I learned something today.
I used to use rockwool all the time and I guess it never occurred to me to wonder what it is..

 

[MrFancyPlants]

Drunk bare rooting not a good idea.

 

[nuttiest]

Drunk bare rooting not a good idea.

I know, I left several in a kiddie pool and it was disorderly when I came back.