Can someone help me ID these?

Mura

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The first two are the same tree, and the second two are another tree. They just have very small differences. One has long shoots and is a slight difference in color. The other grows more compact shoots and has berries. They're both at my grandmothers house and I'm desperately trying to propagate before we have to sell the place. I think the two trees are about 50 yrs old. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you in advance!!
 

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Both look like junipers but it is very difficult to tell which sort as there are many species and some look very similar. Added complexity because many garden cultivars look quite different to the original wild species and occasionally more like another species than their own. J. chinensis is a classic example with slightly different shapes and color from each mountain in Japan.
ID of junipers is further complicated by species name changes over the years and many nurseries selling plants under the wrong names historically.

Hope someone else will be able to narrow down the ID but I'd be happy just to call them juniper. Propagation and care is similar for all species as far as I know.
 
Where in the world are these? General geographic location can help narrow down the choices too.
 
Where in the world are these? General geographic location can help narrow down the choices too.
These are on Maui. Up on a hill where it’s not as humid as most of the island. They’re thriving even in the constant trade winds we get.
 
My guess is cultivars of Juniperus chinensis. If they really are 50 years old, there probably were not many varieties of juniper in the nursery trade on Hawaii when they were planted. Try to find the oldest gardener, nursery owner, horticulturist, or landscape architect possible, and as him or her what they are.
 
constant trade winds

Reckon that direction is how you know what they are.

Doesn't matter anyway!

Just take a bunch of cuttings and stick em in every place you can, 6 in full sun, 6 in the shade, 6 in pots in the shade, 6 in pots in the sun, 6 in half sun, 6 in the front, 6 in the back, 6 upside down, 6 in moss, 6 in dirt, 6 in lava, etc.

Then just dig the whole plant out too!

Sorce
 
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