Candellabra Pine #2

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Here is another one of these crazy candellabra trees.....

This one has had nothing done to in since collection in Fall of last year. It has responded very well this spring and has pushed excellent growth. I will probably do an intial styling and bending of the main branch in a few weeks. It is not too early, good growth top and bottom tells me I can start some work... nothing too major yet though.

This is a bit bigger than the other, about 36" tall and about a 6-7" trunk. This tree has killer bark and loads of potential. Potsed is a picture of each side. The deadwood is open for a shortening in the future but that will be the last thing I do, it will be styled first to make sure I know how long to leave it.

Again, a strange tree so if you don't like it then no harm and don't be afraid to say so. Which front would you go with or style it to be good from any front?????

Thanks in advance, Jason
 

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Can you email me one of the raw picture files? I want to see if I can muck with it to get a larger dimension and still meet the file size requirement. These trees are MUCH better than what you can see with these small pics...
 

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Rich , can you use Photobucket to accomplish this ?

Jason , even though I'm a complete moron when it comes to pines I again like #2 the best even though I don't really see the bonsai in this tree. Maybe thets why I don't really like this one as much as the other. Again , thanks.
 

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OK, the top does look like a candlelabra (on this one any way), but why are you calling them such. Walter refers to candlelabra or from what I have seen as a single tall truck with a tuff of foliage half way up.

I believe the attached pic (Larch) from Walter's gallery is the tree that was referenced in another post re: "candlelabra style", but the style is definitely not my cup of tea. I understand that these trees grow naturally like this in the wild but, not for me.

What do you have in mind for this one Jason?
 

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OK, the top does look like a candlelabra (on this one any way), but why are you calling them such. Walter refers to candlelabra or from what I have seen as a single tall truck with a tuff of foliage half way up.

I believe the attached pic (Larch) from Walter's gallery is the tree that was referenced in another post re: "candlelabra style", but the style is definitely not my cup of tea. I understand that these trees grow naturally like this in the wild but, not for me.

What do you have in mind for this one Jason?
Hey Rick,

Man, I love that tree you posted.... looks very good with the buds starting to break....

If you were to take my tree and bend the main branch around you can bring the foliage in tighter to the trunk. With some back budding you might be able to get it in very tight to the trunk and in a sense close to the pic of Walters tree you posted.

My plans for this tree are one of those "wing" it moments. Most trees I style I get rid of the obvious bad branches and then wire everything. Once you start moving branches the tree will come out and it will be obvious as to what the tree wants. I say this is for yamadori only, nursery or collected trees I would have a plan of attack. With these yamadoris it is pretty easy to find the tree within. It is a good thing they bend pretty easy :) But one always has an idea as to what they want to do......

Jason
 

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Trunk is awesome on this one Jason. If the candlelabra thing doesn't work ,then I say ... Crank it around!
 
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The last pic of the bunch looks to me to have the best line and branch placement possibilities. I like this one better than the first one you posted...Enter and win!
 

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Can you email me one of the raw picture files? I want to see if I can muck with it to get a larger dimension and still meet the file size requirement. These trees are MUCH better than what you can see with these small pics...
Rich,et al

Yes, most of the photos lately leave much to be desired. I have pretty much given up commenting on most of the trees because I simply can't see it well enough to make intelligent analysis.

It appears most are getting under the file size limit by reducing the size of the photo. This is not the way to do it. What you should do is to make the picture the physical size that shows the details without a whole lot of scrolling, in another words, so it fills the screen, or nearly so. This is usually about 600x800 pixels, but can be larger.

Once you have decided on the size and have finished futzing with the color, contrast, etc, then COMPRESS it to just under the file size limit. This is done differently in every photo program, but all the good ones will have a way to do it. Some things to look for, usually under FILE are EXPORT and SAVE AS. When you click on one of these you should get a choice of formats, choose jpg, then look for a compression or quality option. They usually default to around 85% of maximum quality, but you can change that. The lower the quality the smaller the file size, but the size of the picture on the screen will stay the same. You can go down to 50% or even less in some cases and you won't see a great reduction in resolution when viewing on a monitor. You should have the option of going back and starting over again if the quality percentage you choose still ends up exceeding the max file size.

If we are going to make this forum REALLY good, we have to get better at manipulating the photos.

Brent
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Great material - Bigger pictures would be great.

JasonG,

First of all I think this is great material. But I'd really love to see bigger images. I understand there is a limit on the amount of memory each picture consumes. Have you attempted to adjust the quality of the image instead of just reducing its dimensions ? This allows you to post a bigger version of the image and still reduce the physical memory the image requires. You can reduce quality by 20% and not really notice a difference.

Just thought I'd ask... it's killing me not to get a better look at this stuff.

Imagine that... while I was composing this post Brent beat me to the punch. Brent's post is right on. Compression or Quality... when you Export or Save As. I've been able to post images at 640x480 that come in under the limit.
 
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Rich,et al
Yes, most of the photos lately leave much to be desired. I have pretty much given up commenting on most of the trees because I simply can't see it well enough to make intelligent analysis.
First of all I think this is great material. But I'd really love to see bigger images.
We're workin' on it boys. Should have something to view later today.

Good to hear from you Brent! Hope all is well down there and I hope you haven't pulled all your hair out from all the work this time of year...

Rich
 

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Hey Jason:

I prefer Photo 2 - even though the top is moving away; you can bring it back forward; reduce the unicorn spike and incorporate the jin/shari from the right - sort of behind the tree....

Regards

Tom Tynan
 
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For those of us who are software novices, I recommend xat.com, it's very easy to use. I use it only for cropping, sizing, and compressing photos.

Oh, I'm sorry, I hope I haven't jumped into a private conversation.
 

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Photoshop 7.01. Less than two minutes work to download, modify and then upload. Most of the time is spent waiting on DSL and my slow 1.66mhz machine...
 
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Hay Jason,
Thanks for posting all these great trees. I would love to comment on them but they are soooooo far out of my league that I'm at a loss for words.

Jay
 
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