Carpinus Caroliniana material

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Looking at one final(fingers crossed) purchase for some good material. Price point here is 300 for this American Hornbeam. Thoughts?
 

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Not for me. They are so readily available here, in stunning starter material, to collect at no charge. My best friend and I host Yamadori Expeditions here in Atlanta and help those that participate collect their tree and get them processed for success. We charge $250 for the first tree, up to 3” caliper above root spread. Maybe this helps.
 

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Nice tree. I also live in hornbeam territory and have collected more than a few myself.

The one you have pictured is nice because it looks relatively large, has movement and taper, and it looks like trunk chop scars are closed. ALL of those things are not common on most collected stock. Worth the money in California and I'd consider paying that here in hornbeam central. Someone looks to have put some work into it...
 

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Not for me. They are so readily available here, in stunning starter material, to collect at no charge. My best friend and I host Yamadori Expeditions here in Atlanta and help those that participate collect their tree and get them processed for success. We charge $250 for the first tree, up to 3” caliper above root spread. Maybe this helps.
That sounds super fun! I’m west coast with mostly partial shade area for bonsai, so the American Hornbeam seems appropriate and I love how the species looks.
 

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When you look at the price for a yamadori consider what it would cost you to fly or drive out here, scout for appropriate specimens, arrange for permission or collecting permits, dig the tree and prepare it for shipment, pay to ship it home, and then hope it doesn’t die on you. That’s what you’re paying for. I can dig a hornbeam in my back yard anytime for free but what would it cost me to collect or buy a California juniper?
 

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Update: It has been purchased and is shipping out Monday. The nursery sent me a photo of what it looks like after it was trimmed and put in a training pot for shipping. I got heart eyes to say the least. 😍
 

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I know this is premature. I fully plan to let this acclimate without making any drastic changes for a year.

However assuming I choose this for the front, which cut would work best? I thought about no chops but top section could use some taper/ movement. Right now I’m leaning towards the red/ bottom chop.

Purple
Blue
Red
 

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A rule of thumb when I buy stock is to let it sit for a year as is. Don't make drastic design decisions you may regret. Sometimes what options appear first aren't the best. Give it time, LOOK at it in front of you. Don't bring preconceived plans.
 

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A rule of thumb when I buy stock is to let it sit for a year as is. Don't make drastic design decisions you may regret. Sometimes what options appear first aren't the best. Give it time, LOOK at it in front of you. Don't bring preconceived plans.
agreed. These backbud pretty well on old wood, so you might have a new leader to cut back to that you haven't considered by next year.
 

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Question for everyone, the tree just got here and came in some very moisture retaining soil.

Should I leave it in this soil until next spring? Or half mix it with some bonsai jack soil? The tree was recently dug as well, I believe last week 02/3 or 02/4 Here’s a picture
 

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Question for everyone, the tree just got here and came in some very moisture retaining soil.

Should I leave it in this soil until next spring? Or half mix it with some bonsai jack soil? The tree was recently dug as well, I believe last week 02/3 or 02/4 Here’s a picture
since it was just dug, the tree is going to have a lot of energy come spring. if i was really worried about the soil, I'd go ahead and slip pot it and knock off any loose soil and check it out. you're still going to have to monitor watering till you bare root it as there's still field dirt in the root ball.
 

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Question for everyone, the tree just got here and came in some very moisture retaining soil.

Should I leave it in this soil until next ? Or half mix it with some bonsai jack soil? The tree was recently dug as well, I believe last week 02/3 or 02/4 Here’s a picture
At this point, a week from collection, repotting and/or otherwise screwing around with the soil and roots is iffy. If it were mine, I'd just let it be and be watchful on watering (Which you should be anyway, since overwatering is a primary cause of death for newly collected trees)
 

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just noticed the date; it's been two weeks! definitely something to do right when you get it. if i ever order a tree straight from the field, maybe i should request they send the untouched root ball so i can pot it myself.
 

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I didn't end up doing anything to it didn't want to risk it.
 

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American hornbeam like water. They grow strong in low places, riparian zones, and on the lip of streams well. They like oxygen too, is not a bald cypress or aquatic tree.

Agree would leave be, get to know, and water present soil with precision once get to know it. It doesn’t dump rain constantly in Oakland anyway. You may end up preferring this type soil for the species in your area, at least for develop and refinement.

@rockm taught me much of what I know of this species as bonsai, everything good or bad has been correct in my experience. would heed those words, I am thankful
 
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