Chaenomeles japonica "quince"

[defra]

bought this small quince at noelanders trophy saturday

its my first Quince
flowers about to open

not sure what to do yet
the branch on the right has to Come off it has a big knob at the end wich creates inverse taper on the branch

 

[defra]

I Know chinese quince has far better and finer branching but could i go for hokidachi with This Japanese quince?

anyone sugestions?

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

You have a nice single trunk, not real common to get in Chaenomeles, why not keep it that way? Work with strengths of material actually in front of you.

Chaenomeles are more often used for medium to shohin sizes, and as accents. Chinese quince tend to be used for medium to large size bonsai. This is a trend, not absolute.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

If you want a clump style, just get it growing, in time it will send up suckers.

But first, let it bloom and enjoy the flowers.

 

[defra]

The branch on The right has inverse taper at The end so it has to go i think
i dont want to make a clump style out of i was looking for maybe broom if thats doable with This species but hell im Just going to try

 

[Tentakelaertje]

If you are going to remove that branch on the right, maybe layer it right under the knob. That way you'll have a mini clump and the original tree improved.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I think it'll be best as a informal upright, clump, or something like similar to this (I don't know how to describe it. Penjing-like? It looks like something that belongs on a nice scroll). If a broom, then I think an informal broom.
If you go the clump or informal upright, I'd save branches and roots for cuttings; you could end up needing them even for grafting on branches.

 

[fredtruck]

When I'm in the situation you're in right now, I just let the tree grow for a year or so to see what it does. That gives you time to figure out if the tree's natural behavior can work in your favor and will suggest what it can become. I do think you should go with the single trunk option. That's what it is now.

 

[defra]

If you are going to remove that branch on the right, maybe layer it right under the knob. That way you'll have a mini clump and the original tree improved.

Sounds like a plan

I think it'll be best as a informal upright, clump, or something like similar to this (I don't know how to describe it. Penjing-like? It looks like something that belongs on a nice scroll). If a broom, then I think an informal broom.
If you go the clump or informal upright, I'd save branches and roots for cuttings; you could end up needing them even for grafting on branches.

as fred and Leo sugested im not going for clump style also i dont see the comparision with your link

i was thinking something like This :


mad smartphone drawing skils!

 

[namnhi]

The branch on The right has inverse taper at The end so it has to go i think
i dont want to make a clump style out of i was looking for maybe broom if thats doable with This species but hell im Just going to try

Defra, you could airlayer at the bulk on the right branch to create a clump.

 

[defra]

yeah like Tentakelaertje says

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

The branch on The right has inverse taper at The end so it has to go i think
i dont want to make a clump style out of i was looking for maybe broom if thats doable with This species but hell im Just going to try

I am not singling out just you, I have seen many, usually less than 5 years into this hobby, get very concerned about reverse taper. Relax, reverse taper is not always a fatal flaws. Reverse taper can be corrected in young material. Any time plans include increasing trunk diameter for a tree, there are ample opportunities to fix a zone of reverse taper. In the case of your tree, that right branch does need to go, so that is an easy fix. But when you look at other trees, and see reverse taper, remember that there are ways to fix it. Only in trees near exhibition quality is reverse taper a serious flaw, because at this stage there won't be much more growth.

Zones of reverse taper are important to note, and make plans to fix. It is important to keep an eye on this when "building a bonsai" with young material.

 

[defra]

thank you for your reply Leo very well explained something to keep in mind!

 

[defra]

Like duscussed i placed an airlayer on the big lump on the end of the branch

Step 1: cut and peel off a ring of bark and cambium
Step 2: put hormone powder on the place where the new roots are going to form
Step 3: pack in spaghmum moss with foil and tie it in place with a wire
Step 4: put on black foil to keep the light away and help to warm it up
Step 5: remember to keep it moist

 

[defra]

Yesterday i decided to go and look at the airlayer and decided to cut it off

It had a few white roots and i tool the gamble
Pruned the airlayer back some to reduce the foliage to where i hope this new roots will be able to suport the remaining green

 

[defra]

This is how it looks without the branch
I think this will be the front

 

[JudyB]

Good deal, both trees will be nice! Do you think you'll get new growth on the branch stub?

 

[defra]

Good deal, both trees will be nice! Do you think you'll get new growth on the branch stub?

I think so yes but the back of the tree will have an interesting feature id like to hollow it out allong with the stub of the branch wich i left on for that purpose going to be a fun tree i like to get it as natural as possible

 

[AlainK]

Well done!

 

[defra]

i made a virt of the back wich i want to hollow out a bit something like this: