I happened on a pinus strobus that is just wow for my newby hands to get at a Home Depot. Been trying to find a detailed video on its troublesome defoliation and would really love some input. Going to make a thread tomorrow when I can get it in some good light. As for now till spring I was hoping to get it in the ground with some minor cuts and a decent wiring. Think I got that covered but defoliation and form continuation I am having trouble with. I feel like it might be ready for final shaping the s is so developed I don't know what to do with the apex. Will post tomorrow.