Chojubai quince

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was nice to see other quince threads, but this particular dwarf especially the red flower ( as opposed to the white and now the new orange sport) is what I'm cracy about. I would like to
find someone else who is as cracy about them as i am so we can conver knowledge. are you out there?
 
dick benbow said:
was nice to see other quince threads, but this particular dwarf especially the red flower ( as opposed to the white and now the new orange sport) is what I'm cracy about. I would like to
find someone else who is as cracy about them as i am so we can conver knowledge. are you out there?
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I love them as well (prolly not as much as you tho :) ) .... however I will be getting my information from you as I know of no one else besides of course Michael who have them
 
Very sweet little plants! Not that many seen in the states. I have one that has been flowering all winter since fall! They will often flower a second time in the fall and are often repotted in the fall, but this is the first year that it has flowered for so long. It has been a warm fall here. This was repotted in the fall of 2010. Other repots have been in the spring.
 

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Nice to see you again on another site Dick:) Does anyone know of any sellers offering any decent or more advanced Chojubai stock (red variety)?
 
Nice to find someone a little closer, bremerton is about an hr's drive from me....Mike, yes it's good to run across folks of a similar persuation on various lines......John thanks for posting the picture of yours. Curious as to what age yours might be. Brian, hagedorn was my bonsai teacher for two years and he definetely helped me to understand how to design/wire them. He was and is quite the talented designer. A Brit, by the name of Mark Cooper, actually got me initially informed and enthused about them.

My oldest red is about 40 and is a single trunk of about an inch's diameter. My oldest white is about the same age but 3X's the base diameter. It's being converted to clump style/ The new orange sport, recently developed
is 3 years old and about 3/8ths of an inch in diameter. Interesting story on that one. The nursery that developed it won't ship. so i had a friend of mine in the Koi hobby that lives 20 minutes away go and hand select a few in 4 inch cups and ship them up to me. I called the nursery again this year to ask if they would ship and they said no. LOL!!!! It's a pretty soft orange. Leaf is bigger than red, more like the white. I have found a local nursery that has an older white that supose to have a pink hue to it's flower that I'm working on to sell me. maybe this spring they said.
If you have access to the Kokufu ten picture books issue 80 and 82 has award winners from that show that are very old and it's rare for an accessory tree to be recognized.

sorry for all the drivel, but i could rattle on for pages :)
 
John Romano said:
Very sweet little plants! Not that many seen in the states. I have one that has been flowering all winter since fall! They will often flower a second time in the fall and are often repotted in the fall, but this is the first year that it has flowered for so long. It has been a warm fall here. This was repotted in the fall of 2010. Other repots have been in the spring.
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Awesome little tree John. Must have been nice to have some color this winter, since it has been so mild.
 
Dick
Mine is about 15 years old. I bought in Japan in 2000 and it was about 4 years old then. I keep it small and take cuttings from it.
John
 
Dick you should post some pictures of your Chojubai
 
I could do that except here in the pacific NW we are in serious winter, all you could see are the wood structure and no leaves or flowers. Let me see what I can find....:)
 
This is a picture of my white chojubai taken in 2006. I was very fond of this tree. Unfortunately, it met its demise at the teeth of wild animals who ate it, almost completely. I raised this from cuttings I got from Brent.
 

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thanks for posting the picture. I've always enjoyed brent's articles in various magazines and his
love of quinces. It's just these dwarf varieties (chojubai) take for ever to get to any size. White
colored ones definetely are bigger faster growers. :)
 
Apologise for the poor photo of my white chojubai. Taken last fall as leaves were preparing to drop and tree to go dormant. It's a monster
in comparison to all my others. Tho I quickly found among the critical elite, white did not occupy the same regard as the red, no matter what size.
 

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Too bad about that white one in the first pic. It was very sweet. (perhaps too sweet and tempting...) What is wrong with the white flowers? Is red the more rare bird, or is it just personal preferance? I tend to like the light pop of white flowers as opposed to some of the garish reds... But give me an apricot!!! then you're talkin!
 
Red is chosen, not so much for it's color but because it has smaller blooms, smaller leaves and is a slower grower. All these things make the red more desired.

I have dozens of japanese quinces ( non dwarf) and my favorite color is a blackish red. I
like all the colors, really.
 
The white variety is also harder to get a fine grade ramification on as well, and in my opinion have kind of a sloppy look (on the few I saw that were decently ramified).

Bump on the question of if anyone knows where to get some decent red Chojubai stock?
 
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I've been growing and propagating Chojubai Dwarf Japanese Flowering Quince for over 40 years in Rochester, New York. I just happen to come across a photo showing both the white and red cultivars growing next to each other below a Dwarf Alberta Spruce forest and cascade style Seigen Japanese maple.

This is how I study plant material for bonsai, plant them in the ground, next to each other so the differences can be clearly seen. Both the white (right) and the red (left) cultivars are approximately the same age, over 20 years. Note the size difference between the two plants! Of course they are periodically trimmed for harvesting cuttings in early summer, then kept tidy by occasional pruning. Both plants have produced an abundance of fruit and student have planted seed. Of course they will not be the Chojubai cultivar, but may, however, produce something unusual.

Bill
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Appreciate the picture...:)

Bill share with us things you've learned over the years.Like best time to take cuttings. Best time to repot (spring or fall) best soil mix
and any other tip you might know....(thanks in advance)
 
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