CM Bonsai. Developing a Seedling Cutting

[cmeg1]

I am making this thread on a seedling cutting because I want to have a few trees of my own.I am always tempted to sell the little dudes.
This one caught my eye this crop ,so I set it aside to keep.Its 3 mnths old abouts.

Plan:
This season grow till’ end of August indoors,then rest in the outdoors and go into a frame for a couple months then bring back in early.
I will utilize the co2 fertilization indoors and then bring outdoors at some time during each grow season to acclimate to cold storage.
In the next 7 weeks this Pine will grow dramatically in the co2 enriched environment at 1300ppm!! almost 4x ambiant levels of co2.

Will actually do this to a few trees.......various species as I choose them.
Hawthorn
Coreana Hornbeam
Cryptomeria
Linden
Beech
Chinese Elm
Zelkova

At least a few of any one of the species above as that is what is stratifying now in the refridgerator

 

[Bonsai Nut]

Interested in seeing your future results!!

 

[cmeg1]

It’s Happy Home Now

Finally have a grow room that is working perfectly and fairly economical.

 

[cmeg1]

Interested in seeing your future results!!

Thanks,man.This is very interesting to me.Excellerated growth,multi branch.It seems all the branches want to grow too,so hopefully many leaders.It would thickin incredibly fast that way!

 

[cmeg1]

Potted up for water conservation

Slipped into another pouch.Smaller pouch remaining so the roots get very dense close to the trunk.The Rootpouch thin blacks are good 12-15 mnths submerged? I believe.
Double pouch! I mean colander..NO I mean double pouch......JK✌
These prune by entrapment pruning anyway..not air pruning.
It is funny all the growth on this dude and still 90% juvenile leaves.The big daddy ones are ready to pop though.

 

[JoeR]

Potted up for water conservation

Slipped into another pouch.Smaller pouch remaining so the roots get very dense close to the trunk.The Rootpouch thin blacks are good 12-15 mnths submerged? I believe.
Double pouch! I mean colander..NO I mean double pouch......JK✌
These prune by entrapment pruning anyway..not air pruning.
It is funny all the growth on this dude and still 90% juvenile leaves.The big daddy ones are ready to pop though.
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Cool stuff. They say the reason the world's plants don't absorb the excess CO2 we are emitting is because there is some other limiting factor besides co2 preventing more growth. So it will be cool to see what a plant does with absolutely no limiting factor you have controls lined up for comparison?

How did you get that one to branch so much this early?

 

[Ohmy222]

I will be curious. Your cuttings are pretty amazing. Would be interested to see what you could do as they age. I have three of your JBP on the way and I have 95% deciduous/flowering in my collection. Shows you how intriguing your stuff is. Would really love to check out your deciduous stuff.

 

[cmeg1]

Cool stuff. They say the reason the world's plants don't absorb the excess CO2 we are emitting is because there is some other limiting factor besides co2 preventing more growth. So it will be cool to see what a plant does with absolutely no limiting factor you have controls lined up for comparison?

How did you get that one to branch so much this early?

Thanks.With the co2, ambient air is about 375 ppm or so....if you bump up to 1000 ppm tou get around 50% more photosynthesis!
You are correct though...co2 fertilization is only useful if tou dial in wverything else 40-60% humidity......80-84f degrees with co2 is beneficial although 75-80 is ok like regular environments.Good intense light from led or hid,lec etc.
Without one thing co2 is a waste!!!

As far as the early branching use a 5:2 ratio fulvic acid powder/kelp powder or 1/8tsp fulvic acid- 1/16 tsp kelp per gallon of water.
Fulvic acid is low molecular weight humic substance that will transport plant growth promoting elements directly into cell ions in as little as 4 hours.So It carries the cytokonins in the kelp through the leaves of the trees when used as a foliar spray NO MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK OR IT WILL BURN NEEDLES AND ALSO RINSE LEAVES IF IN YOUR FERTILIZER ROOT DRENCHES FROM NORMAL WATERING.
Even every two weeks will produce the branching and short internode result.
What happens is the cytokonins interupt the auxin signal in the meristem(terminal shoot leader) of the tree and makes it have early side-bud growth as a result.It initiates the trees genetic survival mechanism of popping side buds like when the branch is broken or topped,but of course without removing the leader. Total win win in bonsai.

Also mix some yucca root powder 1/16 tsp per 5 gallons to the foliar spray to spread the water droplets onto the waxy needles......On tiny germinating seedlings use an atomizing hairdressing sprayer to produce a fine mist so as to adhere to pine needles and stem like dew...older needles can just use a pump sprayer ALSO PH FOLIAR SPRAY. TO 6.2-7.0

 

[cmeg1]

Getting more vigorous two weeks later

I guess this will have to go outside this month.Maybe mid August or so to pump it up for a short winter sleep.I may wait till’ September 1st though.Just bump up some feeding now to get the juices flowing.
Here is a couple pictures two weeks apart ...

 

[Bonsai Nut]

Dang, that is pretty impressive! I love threads like this where people are doing stuff really different that appear to have an impact!

 

[cmeg1]

Yea,honestly another month in the co2 fertilization will do it some justice for sure!

 

[cmeg1]

Dang, that is pretty impressive! I love threads like this where people are doing stuff really different that appear to have an impact!

Thanks.I really like the Rootpouch containers.I double them like this just to conserve moisture.While some roots do break through the inner pouch...they are rated to stand up to submertion into media for 12-15 mnths before conpletely doing so.
There is nothing greater than having dense roots only 1/2” from trunk.

I also seen these hybrid indoor specimens get crazy vigorous!
Had a total sea of green once.

So excited to bring this one back indoors probably in late January or early February.I have not pushed a proper candle indoors yet.

 

[roberthu]

Thanks.I really like the Rootpouch containers.I double them like this just to conserve moisture.While some roots do break through the inner pouch...they are rated to stand up to submertion into media for 12-15 mnths before conpletely doing so.
There is nothing greater than having dense roots only 1/2” from trunk.

I also seen these hybrid indoor specimens get crazy vigorous!
Had a total sea of green once.

So excited to bring this one back indoors probably in late January or early February.I have not pushed a proper candle indoors yet.

I am ready to make more purchases!

 

[cmeg1]

I am ready to make more purchases!

Yes working on a more perpetual harvest!
Thanks.
The green mammoth one above was o ly 6.5 mnths!

 

[leatherback]

boah. Unfair!

 

[cmeg1]

boah. Unfair!

Haha.......I must say though.The funnest part will be pushing a candle in early next season indoors.Curious to see how this goes.

 

[roberthu]

Yes working on a more perpetual harvest!
Thanks.
The green mammoth one above was o ly 6.5 mnths!

That needle density is just unreal....

 

[leatherback]

Haha.......I must say though.The funnest part will be pushing a candle in early next season indoors.Curious to see how this goes.

I would say.. If that works.. I will come for lessons and start taking corkbark pine cuttings by the dozen. Now one season in, and looks like I am failing on them.

 

[cmeg1]

That needle density is just unreal....

It was the o ly seedling out of about 200 or so that actually had a thick stem and thick,staright needles.
I was always taught to look for that in all the books.It was the first time I ever had seen one.....It also sprouted much later than the rest too.Was defi ately a fun project....

 

[roberthu]

It was the o ly seedling out of about 200 or so that actually had a thick stem and thick,staright needles.
I was always taught to look for that in all the books.It was the first time I ever had seen one.....It also sprouted much later than the rest too.Was defi ately a fun project....

That is amazing! I think I may have one of these in the seedlings I germinated this year. I just thought it was a strong/lucky seedling. Never thought it could be potentially genetic...