Collected white oak root question
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augustine
Chumono
I don't think so. Hope you prove me wrong.
ant888
Yamadori
Yes, I will see how it does. Thanks.
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
If it were winter and the tree were dormant, I think you might have a better chance. That said, as long as you keep the foliage humid and keep it out of the sun (to reduce as much as possible demand for water) you might be surprised...
ant888
Yamadori
so keeping the foilage humid, can I spray the leaves with water?
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
Yes. If you can reduce the foliage demand for water to next to zero, the demand on the roots in the short term will be next to zero. It is really important to note - don't flood the roots with water so they sit in a swamp. Just keep the soil moist like normal, but keep the leaves in bright indirect light (no direct sun!) sheltered from wind, heat, or excessive dryness.
ant888
Yamadori
Thanks I will try and keep this tree alive. I will also update the thread on the tree's health
GGB
Masterpiece
Don't write it off as dead when all the leaves fall off. You can pretty much bet it's going to drop all the leaves but it may come back in time to harden off for winter
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
Think like a tree. Hot dry air with lots of wind... means lots of drying in the foliage... means lots of water demand from the roots.
Cool humid air with little wind... happy foliage with almost no water demand... roots relaxed.
Remember - roots do three things (1) supply water (2) supply nutrients (3) anchor the tree. If the tree has low water requirements and already has nutrients stored... the roots are not that critical (at that moment). It gives you the window of opportunity to move a collected tree with no roots over to a healthy tree with healthy roots.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
How well described. Excellent!
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
BAAAAD time to collect!
! Give exemplary care, partial sun(morning)best of fortune. Fine roots give some hope.
! Give exemplary care, partial sun(morning)best of fortune. Fine roots give some hope.Wires_Guy_wires
Imperial Masterpiece
I've had oaks with less roots bounce back. But... It might just start producing suckers instead of buds up the trunk.
Good luck with it!
Good luck with it!
rockm
Spuds Moyogi
White oak are (quercus alba) not a very good subject for bonsai even when collected at the right time in the spring. They are very finicky about their roots. What you have there is mostly tap root--which isn't very productive as far as supplying moisture to the top. It might pull through, but I wouldn't get too attached to it.
GGB
Masterpiece
Wan't going to say anything but... my friend tried q. alba for years and most bonsai techniques resulted in larger than normal leaves for him. Maybe You'll find it's not the case for you, but it seems like conventional techniques can be counter productive. I've only worked with q. robur (english oak), the leaves reduce somewhat but still have that awesome traditional lobed oak leaf, wish I didn't sell them all I would've kicked one your way
ant888
Yamadori
Tree is still doing good. I also collected a 2nd white oak with all the roots intact. Hopefully that one will live better.
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Growing them for lumber?
It's what they excel at.
Not bonsai so much.
It's what they excel at.
Not bonsai so much.
Cypress187
Masterpiece
I did this in the beginning alsoBAAAAD time to collect!
I have an (European) oak, they also not so good for bonsai?
Cypress187
Masterpiece
It's a Quercus robur L. (English Oak).
ant888
Yamadori
I have a lot of young trees growing, so it's either attempt for bonsai, or they get cut with the lawn. I'd rather save them.
Cypress187
Masterpiece
I did the same in the begin, we had an entire field of young tree's that needed to get removed, I took like 2 or 3 from each species.
