SU2
Omono
I've got a new stock one that reminds me a bit of your left picture. It's time to put it in a pot and start hacking away and chopping shit off it. Again, I extend my offer to bring a tree to my home and we'll work it. I'm just a man, not a for-profit-bonsai-man if you catch my drift, nothing for sale.
It's rather hard to recommend a true chop point (often because it's multiple) and a pic is in 2D.
Wire crapes out/down/whatever first. The branches shouldnt really grow "up" unless you are just thickening it, in which case you'd still do it sideways then up like making a L with your elbow. Of course an apex grows up, but you grow those in a week, we're talking lowers and the branches people look at.
Come on over man, only a 70 minute drive. And I still have brown hair, too.
Ok so I'm not erring by having a third of the branches angled-outward with guy-wires (I've got like 10 anchor-screws around the box's perimeter, in fact I'm planning to do another session today because of all the branching-growth that's happened since the shoots stopped lengthening) So, basically just setting the stage for what'll eventually be thicker 'primaries', presumably a 'broomstick' style is the only style I can do with a trunk like this, am open to ideas but it's all I can picture! And I commute by bike so it's not a 70min drive unfortunately Would go to another serious bonsai'ist's in a heartbeat if I were able and would particularly love seeing your setup!!
Alrighty time to go do some more wiring on this guy, am just getting into wiring so things still come out pretty funny-looking, it's already goofy because I've got multiple types of tie-downs on the main branches but I'll be using yet a different color when I wire (didn't use any copper on the tie-downs, used galvanized steel and fishing line lol, I did put padding between those and the branches of course!) so this should be interesting! Am picturing this being one of, maybe the, last times I'll be 'working it outward', right? Or would you envision a series of expanding the canopy as you go upward? I've been keenly observing the most natural crapes in my area (not 'crape-murdered' stuff) and they tend to form either as almost bushes if in bad areas (roadsides where they planted small beginner specimen) or, more commonly, an inverse-tapered broom-shape coming from the primaries - I feel like I may just be able to work this thing into a squished-down version of that, it'd be true-to-form although probably still funny looking as far as 'real bonsai', but once developed and flowering it'll still be a sight!!!
Oh and I meant to ask you- can I successfully thwart flowering (so I can keep it growing/developing) by just removing the tip of a shoot when it's starting to flower? It seems the growth pattern is to send out shoots, stop lengthening them while simultaneously lengthening radial shoots of the branch and developing several new tips at the top of the branch (which I suspect will become flowering-bodies, if not then I've got branches that are ready to put out 4 new shoots from the same couple nodes!)