Cryptomeria Endeavors

[cmeg1]

Made seedling cuttings from these Cryptomeria Japonica as we do for Pines !!!

These turn out pretty good with predictable rooting always from the base of first leaves,more so than the pines actually!

This was a test run and had about 50% success.I did not even use bottom heat,so results can be made better.

Roots are cool on these and color is nice too.They grow quite strangly ....always laterally.
Only about 9 weeks from seeds yet,and then into these seedling cuttings.Not bad progress.They take about a mnth to get to seedling cutting stage...quite slow at the onset, but after cuttings are actually same size as the JBP cuttings....so will see how it goes with these!!!

 

[cmeg1]

Starting to get into shape.Right there with the pines.

I am definately liking these.Sewing loads more seed for seedling cuttings currently.
They are getting color and branching too.
These may grow faster than I am anticipating!!!

Quite gorgeous colors really
I am digging seedling cuttings of everything really because they are cuttings , but with the genetic diversity of seed......fun to roll the dice.
Have Hinoki on the way and even going to try deciduous seedling cuttings too!!!

 

[KiwiPlantGuy]

Hi,
Sorry to rain on your parade and all, as your documentation on seedling cutting pines is fantastic.

I can’t think why you would bother trying the seedling cutting method of Cryptomeria and Zelkova for that matter. Cryptomeria(s) root mega easily from cuttings and with great all around a radial roots etc. And Zelkova, they like Elms and root like weeds etc.
Yes, the fun is in doing this and seeing great results makes it worthwhile etc.
Not that my 2cents worth has any standing but why not try using this system to try some of the notoriously difficult species to root, like Carpinus and Fagus. As both are great bonsai, and would easily have demand almost without advertising much.
I do see this system being a fantastic tool, just wondering if you were able to get a result of decent rooting from the above species. Such a great advantage to document and for others in different countries to aspire too etc.
Sorry, ramble over, Charles

 

[cmeg1]

Hi,
Sorry to rain on your parade and all, as your documentation on seedling cutting pines is fantastic.

I can’t think why you would bother trying the seedling cutting method of Cryptomeria and Zelkova for that matter. Cryptomeria(s) root mega easily from cuttings and with great all around a radial roots etc. And Zelkova, they like Elms and root like weeds etc.
Yes, the fun is in doing this and seeing great results makes it worthwhile etc.
Not that my 2cents worth has any standing but why not try using this system to try some of the notoriously difficult species to root, like Carpinus and Fagus. As both are great bonsai, and would easily have demand almost without advertising much.
I do see this system being a fantastic tool, just wondering if you were able to get a result of decent rooting from the above species. Such a great advantage to document and for others in different countries to aspire too etc.
Sorry, ramble over, Charles

Hi,thanks for compliment and advice.Yes these root easily from cuttings.My main advantage with the seedling cuttings idea for other species is getting to roll the dice for genetic diversity of seed propogation.So so very interesting to see what seed comes up with,whereas cuttings is always the same motherplant.The best growers use seed and cuttings to select their mothers.Seedling cuttings mixes the two methods for me....all about genetic diversity for me.
Seedling cuttings do seem to root non-rooting species such as pine whereas any later when they form a green candle they very rarely root...I tried it.
So thanks for the tip!!
Will try on difficult deciduous.
I will be doing Korean Hornbeam too after seed stratification....they root somewhat easily.

 

[cmeg1]

Has grown consideralbly.
2 more weeks and these look alright.Getting very branchy and exceeding the pines growth too.
Will be cool someday.....have loads of seed germinating.

 

[0soyoung]

Greenfinger, he's the man
The man with the Curtis touch
A @cmeg1's touch
Such a green finger ...

 

[cmeg1]

These actually grow fast.
Aside from some tip burning,these are great.....maybe just sensitive to the intense light.
Maybe the kelp foliar?
Gettin’ big for sure.Faster than pines!!!
Especially the big rooted ones.

 

[cmeg1]

Cryptomeria are starting to backbud!!!
3.5 mnths old now......from very start at seeds then made seedling cuttings.
I was wondering when they would start backbudding.
Definately getting more interesting now.It seems these start to get pretty vigorous in their own right when they get heavier.
Some have masses of branches at the base.
Here is a shohin from Bonsaitonight.com website.
So probably about 10” or less?
And then another big one also from bonsaitonight.com.Can see the vigor these can have.
I have a ton of seed done stratification,so I guess I plant more.Backbudding makes it more interesting and I guess they get a more mature foliage too....Have to learn these by doing for sure.
Here are a bunch of pics and inner backbud shots too!!!