Not really for me
. See my first post in this thread
Ok.
Shitty is Relative.
Relative is
"considered in relation to something else".
So, your scope of "something else" is going to define your "relative".
It is very clear that ....
maybe I am alreay picky enough from the start that I do not get real real shitty trees into the yard
Since it is impossible to turn a shitty tree into a great tree in 2 years.
Your scope of "something else" is limiting this, leaving you here arguing semantics with me.
Some people have Good Days and Bad Days.
As our experience grows, we add increments onto this scale.
Great Days, Good Days, Bad Days, Terrible Days.
Awesome Days, Great Days, Good Days, OK Days, Bad Days, Terrible Days, etc.
Since your worst day definition always gets worse, and good day definitions always get better, we have to add increments or change definitions.
I am merely trying to show you a larger scope of "something else's", and you are not accepting it. That is ok. But I don't want to argue.
This is true.
your shitty may not be my shitty,
What I'm saying is, while we all have different shitty's......
I am speaking of the actual mathematical bottom end of the spectrum.
What is MOST IMPORTANT...
Is this is only in regards to giving something away to a newb.
Even the shittiest of shitty trees can be made into something good.
But there has to be value in what you are doing over what the newb can do on their own.
Honest and greed come into play here.
To me, there is less value in a first year already potted Juniper for a newb, because they miss out on the education of repotting it, and usually, they can buy 3 equal value nursery J's for the same price as that one, get some education, and not have to store a shitty Chinese pot.
Of course, there is also a level of sentimentality that comes into play, since we are humans. Sentimental value can be greater than actual value, and this is ok, so long as it is spoken of.
My Greatest Days were when my kids were born.
Does that mean people with no kids haven't had a great day? No.
A shitty day for me at one point was the last day of a week eating only rice and sugar.
Then I lost my employment and housing on the same day a couple weeks after I lost my transportation and that became a "shitty" day.
You know what else is relative, life experience.
Mathematically, I have been in a position to have had more life experience than anyone here for almost ten years.
Since one can both always learn, and rarely learn.
You need not consider me wise, or correct.
The wise do.
Chalk this into the book of "arguments".
Sorce
P.S. I didn't want to have to, but it seems I might need to write the equation to keep the best collection.
It exists.
Are there any actual mathematicians here?
Cuz the equation for the perfect tree needs to happen too.