Do big box stores sell Japanese black pine?

[ceriano]

What type of pine big box stores generally carry? Do they have bonsai material?

 

[sorce]

All I see is Mugo and Austrian.

The mugos are started in 3in plugs and take that shape in the roots. Blows.

The Austrian Pines are usually ground grown and
Balled and burlapped in clay. Also Blows.

Best to plant seeds I reckon.

Sorce

 

[Pitoon]

What type of pine big box stores generally carry? Do they have bonsai material?

Sometimes you can find Thunderhead Japanese black pine. Read up about them if you decide to buy one as they don't like to play bonsai very well.

 

[ceriano]

Adams’ has some starter plants. That may be my best bet. He’s not very far from me.

black pine 1

 

[bwaynef]

A lot of the JBP I see at big box stores are Thunderhead. I'd tend to recommend folks avoid that cultivar.

 

[MrWunderful]

I have seen them a few times, but are almost always expensive and poor quality.

 

[Paradox]

I think it depends on your location.
I see them here at big box stores and and landscape nurseries.
I have not seen any at either that would be suitable for bonsai

 

[Pitoon]

I've seen some Thunderhead with really really good looking trunks and nebari at local nurseries. I suppose they could be used to graft normal Japanese black pine back on to them.

 

[Adair M]

I've seen some Thunderhead with really really good looking trunks and nebari at local nurseries. I suppose they could be used to graft normal Japanese black pine back on to them.

Oh joy! A double grafted tree! A JBP seedling, grafted with Thunderhead, grafted with JBP seeding foliage!

 

[Pitoon]

Oh joy! A double grafted tree! A JBP seedling, grafted with Thunderhead, grafted with JBP seeding foliage!

LOL, it would be interesting to see for sure.

 

[Adair M]

LOL, it would be interesting to see for sure.

Just get a regular JBP.

 

[ceriano]

Home Depot had a few nice white pines but they were $180+.

 

[Pitoon]

Home Depot had a few nice white pines but they were $180+.

Interesting I've never seen a Japanese white pine at HD, most always Austrian white pine.

 

[Carol 83]

There is a JBP on the .99 Cent Bonsai Auction on FB.

 

[ceriano]

There is a JBP on the .99 Cent Bonsai Auction on FB.

I joined the group yesterday. My membership is still pending.
what’s the safe nigh temperature to order bonsai online?

 

[Carol 83]

I joined the group yesterday. My membership is still pending.
what’s the safe nigh temperature to order bonsai online?

I always wait until nighttime temps are 50+, but they are mostly tropicals...

 

[ceriano]

There is a JBP on the .99 Cent Bonsai Auction on FB.

what do you think about these? He has several listings.

Japanese Mikawa Black Pine Bonsai Estimated 29 Years Old | eBay

Japanese Mikawa Black Pine Bonsai Estimated 29 Years Old. Shipped with USPS First Class.

www.ebay.com

Japanese Mikawa Black Pine Estimated 26 Years Old | eBay

Japanese Mikawa Black Pine Estimated 26 Years Old. Shipped with FedEx Ground or FedEx Home Delivery.

www.ebay.com

Japanese Mikawa Black Pine Bonsai Est 28 Years Old | eBay

Japanese Mikawa Black Pine Bonsai Est 28 Years Old. Shipped with FedEx Ground or FedEx Home Delivery.

www.ebay.com

 

[Paradox]

Mikawa are cork bark JBP right?

I would avoid those, they are rather finicky and not as vigorous as regular JBP

 

[ceriano]

Mikawa are cork bark JBP right?

I would avoid those, they are rather finicky and not as vigorous as regular JBP

This is the only resource I could find:
Awaji is the one that flakes off according to this.

Mikawa Black Pines?

One of my blog readers emailed me a question: “I’d like to learn the difference between regular JBP and Mikawa JBP?” I thought it was a really good question because I didn’…

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[DrBonsai]

I thought "Mikawa " were "regular" Japanese Black Pines, but variety with nicer bark.
As opposed to "Nishiki" Cork Bark varieties.
See https://peterteabonsai.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/mikawa-black-pines/ for a discussion.
Did find a Japanese Black Pine " Monina" at Home Depot from Monrovia and bought it on clearance.
Clearly a graft and not great prospect but it did allow me to practice my JBP techniques until I found some
better material.
In time it took me to post, same link was posted, lol !
Clearly great minds think alike, and so do ours !