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You want me to show you evidence for your words and conclusions? Strange debate conception.

Yep... this is what I thought...

You have quite literally no evidence to back up your video, and now are spending time playing the fool.
Does suit you, though...
 
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WAKE UP it is A.D. 2017.

Since Dalmat seems to not be able to provide basic info for any of what is happening in this video...
I thought I would share some links then, that might help someone at least better understand the actual context of what is actually taking
place within the video, Seeing that the video is quite literally a heaping pile of mix together, out of place, distortion of reality. There are quite
literally hundreds if not more sites out there regarding this event, here are just a handful.

Oh... One more thing... The Millions upon Millions of people you see walking in the video...
Seems to be slightly over 2.000 actual people.
So... as typical with this kind of Propaganda, it could not be further from the truth.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-their-long-march-to-a-new-life-10487477.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...travelling-refugee-camp-continue-protest.html

http://www.dw.com/en/refugees-stuck-in-budapest-as-police-closes-train-station/g-18685307

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...ve-refugees-stuck-border-160707131922016.html

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/thousands-refugees-stranded-budapest-train-station/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/refugees-stranded-budapest-train-station-hungary
 
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Trump does it all of the time.
Seems to be a common thread among those on the right, throughout the world obviously!
Never could understand why they would Prey on the Fears of the People???
 

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spending time playing the fool
it could not be further from the truth.
??? in your links you have just disassembled compiled video in multiple links showing the same and back up my explanation.
2000? Yes in one frame. But you could have shot that frame every day through all summer until the colder days started.
I just won't bother anymore with your believes and view of the situation as you are not accepting different opinions no matter what evidence you are provided. It seems to me that you will not accept it, even if they walk through your backyard until New York Times tells you that they are passing.
 
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??? in your links you have just disassembled compiled video in multiple links showing the same and back up my explanation.
2000? Yes in one frame. But you could have shot that frame every day through all summer until the colder days started.
I just won't bother anymore with your believes and view of the situation as you are not accepting different opinions no matter what evidence you are provided. It seems to me that you will not accept it, even if they walk through your backyard until New York Times tells you that they are passing.
What Evidence have you shown me?

I have asked for it on numerous occasions and have got nothing except your opinions.

Do these now count for Evidence?

In fact... I asked very specific questions, of just Raw Data... and asked you to provide us with it.... because I was skeptical of the fim and what it was claiming. This should be very easy to provide, and if the video and the claims it makes are in fact true, i would think you would like to provide us with this, seeing it would quite literally prove your point, Right?

Instead you give us crap of how someone doesn't like a Sandwich, or how they are Mad because they cannot find a battery for their I-Pod phone... things that I am sure every people no matter who they are, or where they come from... complain about. In fact my 4 year old niece doesn't like bread... so, I am sure she would say she doesn't like a Sandwich either. .. Is she a bad person according to your evidence compiled from your opinion?
 

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Nah what will we be without you. Now I hope the 10 000th member is a Sorceman... :eek:

Hell...I can't take 5 minutes off here...

I must have taken my phone out about 30 times in the last few years to check the time, or the moon, or text someone, and rather than complete my task, I'd be here, "looking at tree porn" as they call it! While some poor Sap, yes, sometimes myself, wounds be like, "hey, what the duck time is it?"

But this thread....the only reason I came back for a second time right now is cuz you quoted me.
I wouldn't have came back for anyone else!
And I know whoever follows this thread, even though they got this far and I haven't said socialism, or Hitler,etc,etc,
You'se are still reading this so you know....
Only Fredman can get me back here.

I'll wander back 2,347,987 some shit posts later!

And hopefully, have some April buds to Bomb this thread with....

Yes, one month....2 million more posts,

Cuz at the rate Trump is Fucking up....

Oh wait...this thread has nothing to do with DT anymore!

Fredman....this thread is legendary....

Or in nerd speak, takin up a lot of Pterodactyl Bites....

And here I was thinking those things were extinct!

I gotta catch up on my StarTrek!

Not!

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@Dalmat

Here .. I will answer my "Own" questions for you... Seeing you seem to have a problem doing so...

1.) How many people got off the Boat in Greece?

Answer... I have not found any reports regarding this as of yet. So, I don't know?

2.) Are these the 1.7 million people that German expects to recieve? Are we quite literally watching 1.7 million people walk down the street on the video?

Answer. .. No. By best accounts of various reportings, the numbers range from anywhere from 500 people to just over 2,000 people decided to walk towards Germany, after being denied rail service in Budapest. So, even if we pick the high number here... of just over 2,000... in the video it appears to be a lot more.

3.)Where is this video being shot? Are we still in Greece?

Answer... No. The video does not tell us where this is... but by researching other accounts, for all intensive porposes... they are some where on the road between Germany and the Budapest Rail Station. Which is some where in the neighborhood over over a 100 kilometers.

4.)With the discussion of Budapest , are we now in Hungary? How did they get from Greece to Hungary?

Answer... I guess? Seeing that the video does not describe location. The scene of them walking could be in Hungary, seeing they started off there... not sure if anything after this point is in Hungary, seeing again the video does not tell us. As far as how they got from Greece to Hungary... I haven't a clue, seeing I haven't found any reports of this journey. They clearly got there somehow?

5.)Was there any reports of Trouble in Greece?

Answer. .. I don't know. Have not found anything either way.

6.)How did they get stuck at the Train Station in Budapest?

Answer... the Government suspended all lines and pulled Trains out.

7.)What made all these people so mad? That they would want to do these things? Did something happen that the video is not telling us?

Answer. .. Yeah... like the complete Story!!!
Of how people were denied service regardless of if they had money, we're stranded at the Train Station for 11 days not aware of where to find basic necessities, how they were being told to go to a camp that the government had set up, how some escaped and we're rounded up, how the Police were being used to forcibly remove people from the train station to a camp, and the list goes on and on. Of how, the Government obviously didn't really want to deal with these people, but at the same time didn't want them to continue on their journey to Germany, which they were told would accept them.

The video does not tell us and I have found no reports as if yet, of all the other violent activities that happened later in the film. So, I am not sure if these are from them being forced to remove? Are somewhere totally different not associated with this particular event in Budapest. .. Or are just completely un related to this actual story, but thrown in. I have read reports of a clash between them and the police at the train station. And a report of police pulling out... not sure if this was due to them leaving and deciding to walk to Germany, and the police being told to just let them go? Or because all hell broke loose as the video shows and the Government and the Police decided to let the people ruin stuff cause they were no match to the refugees... which I would find and little odd... that they all just went home and let people just F-up their city.
 
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1.) How many people got off the Boat in Greece?
1 300 000 entered Germany by March 2016. EUROSTAT.
658056 passed through Croatia by March 2016.
Are we quite literally watching 1.7 million people walk down the street on the video?
You are looking at different groups in time on all of the route Greece, FYR of Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Hungary you can tell that by police insignia. This gives you answer to question number 3 also.
4.)With the discussion of Budapest , are we now in Hungary? How did they get from Greece to Hungary?
Buses,train some walk part of the distance again through countries mentioned above,told you already ,no of this countries can provide such a logistic in such short time.
5.)Was there any reports of Trouble in Greece?
Yes if they were not progressing on their way and on the border with FYR when they closed the border which happened according to closing other borders on the way.
7.)What made all these people so mad? That they would want to do these things? Did something happen that the video is not telling us?
Not progressing on their way caused rioting. The really wild scenes are from the cities of the final destinations Germany,France,UK.
Are somewhere totally different not associated with this particular event in Budapest. ..
In Budapest riots involved football funs read Hooligans and that is the reason of police backing up.
Instead you give us crap of how someone doesn't like a Sandwich, or how they are Mad because they cannot find a battery for their I-Pod phone...
This was the example for diversity in economic status of different groups of refuges not cause for riots.
things that I am sure every people no matter who they are, or where they come from... complain about.
Shouldn't be your priority when you are escaping from war
 

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Only Fredman can get me back here.
No worries bro. You got me worried when you said see you in 3mnths. Thought you're off to Afghanistan or something....i'm a bit daft.... only for today though...;)
You realize this thread is appropriately named Donald Trump hey? In some other language that means.... Anything Goes....:eek:
 
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1 300 000 entered Germany by March 2016. EUROSTAT.
658056 passed through Croatia by March 2016.

You are looking at different groups in time on all of the route Greece, FYR of Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Hungary you can tell that by police insignia. This gives you answer to question number 3 also.

Buses,train some walk part of the distance again through countries mentioned above,told you already ,no of this countries can provide such a logistic in such short time.

Yes if they were not progressing on their way and on the border with FYR when they closed the border which happened according to closing other borders on the way.

Not progressing on their way caused rioting. The really wild scenes are from the cities of the final destinations Germany,France,UK.

In Budapest riots involved football funs read Hooligans and that is the reason of police backing up.

This was the example for diversity in economic status of different groups of refuges not cause for riots.

Shouldn't be your priority when you are escaping from war
Ok... thanks for clearing things up.

So, then what you are saying is that you are actually confirming what I have said all along.... Right?

That the video you published here is Rubbish. That it conveniently leaves out details, that it lumps together many different events that have occurred, and many different images of events that have occurred, without telling the viewer this... it gives very little dialog... and the dialog it does give, almost purposely tricks the viewer into the illusion that this is all one event, and one of Apocalyptic Porportions.


I mean... Come on... Really?

If you show a scene of multiple clips of people walking down the road, or People Rioting and Looting... all sequenced together as though it is one event... and don't actually tell the viewer that what they are watching is not one event... but many diffetent events that happened over different days, different months, different years even, and in any number of countries, towns and cities... What do you actually think the chances are that the viewer is going to think they are one and the same event? I would say EXTREMELY HIGH... Right?

Don't you think this is just the slightest bit "Misleading "???

That one is deliberately trying to Confuse the viewer into thinking all Hell is Breaking Loose? When on fact it is actually Not?

I mean... if you turned on the News, and they said "Today in Iraq and Afghanistan, the shit really did hit the fan.... " and they quite literally comprised a video Montage of every Event that has happened since those Wars Began and sequenced them together... Not telling you they were all different events, from multiple cities, towns, etc. That actually happened over a spread over 10 plus years...and added scary Dialog like "Well Not Necessarily Biblical Porportions, but Freaking Close Enough"...
You would be like Holy F#*k!!!
Right? We dropped 5 Million Bombs in a Single Day!

I mean, please tell me that you see a problem with this?

And understand that playing with the facts here is as the Video does, is just the slightest bit irresponsible and is meant to trick people.
 
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