Dwarf pitch apple, Schefflera & feather acacia help

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So I bought these three from wigerts and I just don't know what to do. I'm not advanced enough to figure this out. The feather acacia there's at least a trunk so that's the least of my concern but the other two as you can see there's multiple trunks/shoots. Messaged wigerts asking for good pre-bonsai and got these unless I'm just not seeing a shape I can train into. Any advice I'd greatly appreciate.
 

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I don't understand schefflera, so no clue on that. I think they're ugly. I don't know how the foliage can be worked into something attractive. It's an OK houseplant though.

With the pitch apple, you might be able to repot it and tie those roots closer together to get somewhat of a neagari style tree. Wire the branches/trunks into a dome shape and let it grow to look like one tree. You can probably safely start by reducing all triplet branches to twins.

The acacia has potential, but it's up to you to pick a trunkline and canopy shape.

But to be honest, next time it might be a good idea to pick them for yourself. My idea of a good prebonsai is different than the ideas of other people. These plants are what I consider pre-pre-bonsai; rough garden center stock.
 

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IMO shefflera are best with a dense canopy where you can't see the branches. Find a good base then grow them in bright light to keep internodes tight. Pinch and trim and all that for ramification, but don't expect fine branch structures. Drop a few areal roots if you can get the tree to do it.

To me, they are a tropical species that looks best as a banyan with dense foliage over a trunk and aerial roots. Once they get leggy, the look scrawny to me :(
 

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IMO shefflera are best with a dense canopy where you can't see the branches. Find a good base then grow them in bright light to keep internodes tight. Pinch and trim and all that for ramification, but don't expect fine branch structures. Drop a few areal roots if you can get the tree to do it.

To me, they are a tropical species that looks best as a banyan with dense foliage over a trunk and aerial roots. Once they get leggy, the look scrawny to me :(
Lol so I went ahead and decided to turn the Schefflera and pitch apple to banyan so I've covered in plastic bags, it's insane how fast aerial roots grow. Recently had a mite problem on a ginseng, covered in a plastic bag for FOUR DAYS and this happened.
 

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Lol so I went ahead and decided to turn the Schefflera and pitch apple to banyan so I've covered in plastic bags, it's insane how fast aerial roots grow. Recently had a mite problem on a ginseng, covered in a plastic bag for FOUR DAYS and this happened.

Yeah, that's out of control :)

I've had success with schefflera by creating a "straw" out of dense paper towels wrapped around sphagnum and taping to the branch where I wanted a root. It's easy to keep the root guide damp and easy to control where you want a root.

Schefflera are a little stingier than that ginseng, though!
 

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Yeah, that's out of control :)

I've had success with schefflera by creating a "straw" out of dense paper towels wrapped around sphagnum and taping to the branch where I wanted a root. It's easy to keep the root guide damp and easy to control where you want a root.

Schefflera are a little stingier than that ginseng, though!
Omg lol you're not kidding. Schefflera had a couple baby roots starting but the ginseng was straight alien. What should I do with it? A lot of my plants in fact all I've never done an entire defoliation, chop all the way down (well one I did). Where would u go with the ginseng?
 

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In New Jersey, January its not the best time for defoliation, unless you have a very bright & warm, 80+F daytime temp, under lights growing space. Wait until May-June when the tree is outdoors in sun to do the defoliation. The response will be much better. Better back budding.

If you do have a good quality under lights set up, then by all means go ahead.
 

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In New Jersey, January its not the best time for defoliation, unless you have a very bright & warm, 80+F daytime temp, under lights growing space. Wait until May-June when the tree is outdoors in sun to do the defoliation. The response will be much better. Better back budding.

If you do have a good quality under lights set up, then by all means go ahead.
My plant room has ridiculous light and it's always above 80. Could u give some advice on a philippinensis I have? No idea what to do.
 

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I made a thread for my Philippinensis. Pictures are worth a thousand words.
 
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