[EU/Germany] affordable Carpinus orientalis
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BobbyLane
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http://meledabonsai.com/index.php/portfolio-category/carpinus/ website appears to be down though
www.kaizenbonsai.com
if you dont mind reading, there is lots of info on Walter palls blog about them. also on Marija hajic and Andria zokic's facebook page and IG accounts.
Search results for: 'Hornbeam'
Kaizen Bonsai are specialist suppliers of Bonsai tools, gifts and fertilizers accompanied by a huge archive of videos and information on Bonsai care
if you dont mind reading, there is lots of info on Walter palls blog about them. also on Marija hajic and Andria zokic's facebook page and IG accounts.
675 bucks is not affordable to me, thats the cheapest one Kaizen has. I cant spend more than 200 including shipping. Just want the species, not marvelous yamadori.
Edit: That wasnt even an an orientalis, the cheapest orientalis is 1,445£
Edit: That wasnt even an an orientalis, the cheapest orientalis is 1,445£
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BobbyLane
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yes they are not cheap.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Oh.. wow.. Guess I got lucky with mine.
I found a largish one at Deshima bonsai last winter. Pricepoint within your range.
I found a largish one at Deshima bonsai last winter. Pricepoint within your range.
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
there's one in this bag of starter material, listed at £85 for the whole lot. too expensive? i think if you snooze it will be gone in a few days.
www.kaizenbonsai.com
i think its a bargain, all these can go in a grow bed for a few years
Bonsai Starter Trees 7 x Clearance Sale
Bonsai Starter Trees 7 x Clearance Sale Seven plants suitable for outdoor bonsai Great value clearance price items You are buying exactly what's pictured.
i think its a bargain, all these can go in a grow bed for a few years
And he can sell on any of the ones he doesn’t really want after a bit of further development to make them more appealing.there's one in this bag of starter material, listed at £85 for the whole lot. too expensive? i think if you snooze it will be gone in a few days.
Bonsai Starter Trees 7 x Clearance Sale
Bonsai Starter Trees 7 x Clearance Sale Seven plants suitable for outdoor bonsai Great value clearance price items You are buying exactly what's pictured.
i think its a bargain, all these can go in a grow bed for a few years
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
Most certainly a good investment.
Indeed and I checked the shipping to Germany, came up as £13.95 even for so many trees. Definitely a good investment even if everything but the Hornbeam is sold on later. Trade a little patience in return for what could end up as a cheap hornbeam 
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.Well, I bought it. I will say thats a pretty ugly tree but Ill fix or derive something from it eventually, if its not diseased. At least now I have the species. May throw away the 6 other plants or make a post on here saying its free if you pick them up. Since I had to pay shipping anyway, also bought a small saw and my first stainless steel curved branch cutters (large)
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
Ah thats the spirit, at least you have the species in your collection now. goal achieved
Don’t throw them away, list them on eBay as pickup only. Even if you threw them on there and they end up going for up to 10€ each it’s something back on the money you spent. If you can be bothered to ship them then add a shipping charge.
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Did it turn up in the end?
Yeah I got it fine, I think it might have suffered a bit last year from low ph but I threw some alkaline stone dust at it and now it seems fine. This years shoots are 15cm by now
Some thoughts on this plant. I grow it in pretty much full sun. It tolerates it, but sometimes it looks a bit sad. Ive read it prefers part shade or even shade. I think part of its adaptation to be competitive and survive in its natural habitat is that full sun really destroys its apical dominance. Ive got as many branches growing down as up. Wants to become a shrub.
But when light would be lower it would probably aspire to be a tree. Thats how I interpret what Ive read and seen.
Carpinus orientalis grows in a huge area - some varieties are much more suited to bonsai than others Im sure.
Good: maybe 'perdika' and good orientalis seedlings
Bad: subspecies 'macrocarpa' and, I feel, whatever I have
This is my Korean hornbeam for comparison. I like its habit and leaves and it doesnt let its leaves hang on hot days as far as I remember
A direct comparison of shoots. Left - orientalis vs Right - coreana. On uninhibited growth, orientalis leaves (at least of this individual) are more elongated.
Below: The orientalis today. Some downwards growing branches have been removed a while ago.
Just to be fair to it, a picture of the smallest leaves on it. I dont know whats achievable with bonsai techniques in this regard. I am not excited to try over many years.
Maybe I'll give this to an aquaintance to bury in his backyard and try to find better seedlings in the future.
But when light would be lower it would probably aspire to be a tree. Thats how I interpret what Ive read and seen.
Carpinus orientalis grows in a huge area - some varieties are much more suited to bonsai than others Im sure.
Good: maybe 'perdika' and good orientalis seedlings
Bad: subspecies 'macrocarpa' and, I feel, whatever I have
This is my Korean hornbeam for comparison. I like its habit and leaves and it doesnt let its leaves hang on hot days as far as I remember
A direct comparison of shoots. Left - orientalis vs Right - coreana. On uninhibited growth, orientalis leaves (at least of this individual) are more elongated.
Below: The orientalis today. Some downwards growing branches have been removed a while ago.
Just to be fair to it, a picture of the smallest leaves on it. I dont know whats achievable with bonsai techniques in this regard. I am not excited to try over many years.
Maybe I'll give this to an aquaintance to bury in his backyard and try to find better seedlings in the future.
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