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This thing seems fine here 2 weeks after repotting.

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Looks right tundra yes?

I trimmed up some of the useful cascading branches for PPB, taking them back to useful structures.
Forks and fill forks and fill.

Sorce
 

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This thing seems fine here 2 weeks after repotting.

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Looks right tundra yes?

I trimmed up some of the useful cascading branches for PPB, taking them back to useful structures.
Forks and fill forks and fill.

Sorce
Your mind works in strange directions that I don't always understand, but your interest and diligence about what you do and Mugos in-particular keep me interested in what you are doing though sometimes I don't comprehend why.
 

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though sometimes I don't comprehend why.
Just roll with it and see how things turn out for him.
It's what I do.
Between your summer repotting of Mugo and Scots pine and my brutality to trees in general I think we've created a monster!
It wasn't too hard really if you think about it.
I'm waiting for @sorce to pop in with another procumbens juniper any day now. I know it's killing him that he can't get them to live.
 

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I have found that Procumbens don't do well with babying, sometimes the more you do the less the favorable results.
 

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@Vance Wood I am convinced our climate around this lake...only on or very near this latitude....
Makes for a very different bonsai experience.

Of course having a greenhouse, or other such luxuries, or the patience/want to have one....come into play...

I prefer trees that, like the garbage can lid, can be thrown somewhere for winter where I can also throw some water periodically and otherwise get about my business of learning all winter!

Mugo fits that (duck) bill!
Get it? We throwing stuff!

Bonsai Stuff!

I am pretty good for Identifying OPP...
Other People's Problems...

Um....situation flaws....

For instance, and @M. Frary should love this one!

Ryan Neil says, "you can always take something back"...
But that is INCOMPLETE.

While you can take everything back, there isn't always a guarantee that taking it back will result in something as visually pleasing.

Hence the song I've penned and must record....

Faster further future vision.

The faster we can see 20 years into the future, the faster we can make the perfect moves now!

And for beginners, this doesn't take 40 years experience.....
Just do like my avatar and black hole everything every tree can tell you about how they grow, what is possible, what is real, what it takes to convert that real to miniature...etc...

Of course you Vance, understand all that already....
But this is where Ryan's relative "newness" to growing nursery stuff out shows. Even though he is the one who spoke of Kimura's Future Vision that made me brainstorm it in the first place!

If you have a flaw Vance, lol!
Going from Nursery Pot to Nationals....:D
I hope these folks understand my level of respect for you by now!

But the wiring thing just has me thinking....

While you were fighting so hard to define MUGO for yourself....

Are there other, I can't say bad, but "old school" general bonsai practices that you may have held onto without realizing?

It's kind of hahaha lol Zen Buddhist Chinese Philosophy, "he's gotta be Bullshitting " cliché...

But I know I know nothing every morning.

People know the Saying.

I live it.

That's how my brain works.

I have a rain barrel attached to a hose that I keep elevated (stuck in the fence) close to the trees, so I can lower it and refill my bottles...

There is a level at which the pressure is considerably lower and it becomes faster to walk over to the other barrel to fill up.

I must be aware of this level because some days I have a minute or 2 less to get to work.

We move shit at work, I calculate how much energy I have to use in particular situations and know when another dude is making me expend more energy, "let's help each other"....
Ok fucker! Then go get your own and I'll get this one!

Moronic Pussies.
Scared to do it alone, and not realizing it takes more energy to do it together.

I can go on.....

But that's how my mind works, beautifully if you will, nothing is complete until it is COMPLETE!

Till then I ask questions....mostly inside my own head, as there seems to be loads of company!

Sorce
 

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Oh and Mike's right.....

I have a knew level of understanding of trees....
Nana may get fucked again!

Sorce
 

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The big problem I have found with Nanas is that they do not seem to get repotted often enough, they do not seem to like being pot bound. This is one lesson I learned from dealing with the species Sargent's Juniper, it is the same way. Three years and out if you are not careful.
 

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Further...

I just fed my dog a tomato...
When he came back for another, I gave him one a bit more orange , he didn't take it...

So I learned that I can use my dog to better determine a more subtle difference of ripeness in tomato...

That doesn't even matter as far as making a good sauce goes...the kids eat it!

But if I wanted, I could now pick a my charger range over ripe tomatoes...
Some with stems, some without, some in paper bags, some not...
And if placed in the sun correctly, I can have them all perfect for a sauce on the same day!

Further, completely, useless information.

Until I find a way to relate it to bonsai....
In a manner that is useful!

Here to nothing overlooked....
And everything overthought!

Sorce
 

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I am beginning to come to the conclusion that Ryan Neil is either misunderstood or misquoted a lot. There are a lot of things I here he has taught that I passionately disagree with.
 

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No comprende.
Like, when in doubt, grow out...

There could be more to it...
Safely, grow out...

He does have a talent to not create a flaw, or, grow one out, so there is probly missing context, or Ryan thoughts when he says it..

But I by no means find anything he says wrong.

I do see a lot of questionable mention of it here...
Mine included.

I always fill in the blanks with positive thoughts..
Ryan isnt the kind of person to not have a reason for everything he does.

Sorce
 

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Been checking for these twice a day since I repotted.

The moon is waning.

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So I 360'd of course...
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Best thing, just as I was thinking about how still I had to be to make this crap tablet take a good picture....

A sparrow landed on my shoulder.

As if to say...

Yes, you are still enough!

One with Earth!

Marigolds!

Sorce
 

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If it looks as vigorous in spring...
I'm gonna remove one or two more unusable trunk extensions and prune for structure all year 18..then wire it in fall 18.....

Maybe.

Sorce
Well you did say this...
I assume that plan has changed a bit?
No fall wiring??
I think my spruce that I wired is dead...
I wired it in late summer....
Before that I lost one that I wired in late fall....
I'm beginning to think that spruces don't like me very much...
 

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Well you did say this...
I assume that plan has changed a bit?
No fall wiring??
I think my spruce that I wired is dead...
I wired it in late summer....
Before that I lost one that I wired in late fall....
I'm beginning to think that spruces don't like me very much...
It survived where I further tortured it last year....seems healthy enough that it'll get wired in summerish.

When I listen closely, it is asking for wire!

Sorce
 

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Thaw Check Part II !

Been 50F!

Sorce
You have a remarkable eye for possibilities in your trees sorce. Looking at what you started with, I'd never have thought "nice rugged looking semi-cascade in there" given what you started with. Great use of the lopsided nebari and overly thick first branch to make features out of "flaws". You may have inspired me to re-evaluate the potential of some of my spruce come next fall. Very cool!
 

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remarkable eye
Thank you.

You remember the "Highlights" magazines from childhood?

These find the differences pictures...126478.jpg

I was addicted to those as a child....

I believe this is what helps find things that are out of place....
Find things in things....like trees in trees...
Or faces in clay.

Get a subscription! Cross training!

I can't wait to see what you come up with upon reevaluation.

My thing.....which is why I love @BobbyLane ...cuz he Finds em....each and every one em!

Every piece of semi-decent material has a real tree out there to be styled after.
Bobby grabs the actual pic and posts it with the Bonsai.
This makes each tree instantly believable.

How to make the viewer see "the picture" but only using the Bonsai to convey it?

I lean heavy on RN's talk in Canberra about subjective bonsai design. He goes into it in pieces on the streams....but that Canberra vid is the lick!

Rhyme and reason....

Hell,

PROPORTION OVER EVERYTHING!

The only flaws we can not overcome are that of proportion. Overly large roots, branches, leaves, etc....

It's the ONLY thing that makes a tree unbelievable.

Everything else we can work with!

That's why I can't get behind MOST pieces of prebonsai I see....

It seems we still price trunks.
Proper proportion should dictate price.

What good is a 6in trunk with a 6in root?

I'd rather buy a stick in a pot!

Sorce
 
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