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Good to know; in that case, I'll get phase 2 done either tonight or tomorrow.


Will it rot without lime sulfur? Still haven't put any on...don't have any.
 

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Phase 2 complete. Debating whether I should Jin the top now, it doesn't have much foliage on it. Not sure if it would kill parts of the tree off or not though.

Am I making the Shari too thin?
 

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You're doing fine. Take your time, and give the tree a few weeks to respond, you should start seeing it callus around the Shari a little by June. Where the live vein is stronger, it will callus faster. You can use it to determine the safest way to widen it over time. Don't Jin the top just yet.
 

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I like this. Like reading a running commentary, the advise then the action. Like watching a lesson in progress. I wish I could fast forward and see how things go, but I gotta wait!
 

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You're doing fine. Take your time, and give the tree a few weeks to respond, you should start seeing it callus around the Shari a little by June. Where the live vein is stronger, it will callus faster. You can use it to determine the safest way to widen it over time. Don't Jin the top just yet.
Here's some shots of the callus forming around the newest parts of the Shari. Still worried I made it too thin, but otherwise it's doing Pretty good IMO, looking forward to the next step.
 

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You can widen it a bit, but let let the wider Shari be shallower than the original so you start building some layers of dead wood. There won't be much difference between them yet, but every little bit adds some texture.
 

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Thinking about moving on to another step now; it's been growing well and looking pretty bushy. Lots of foliage to remove for it to head in the right direction, not to mention continuing the Shari. What's the best next step- more Shari work or pruning?
 

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Have I mentioned the title kills me a little on the inside every time I read it??

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Anyway. As with all my trees, this one’s been neglected- It’s still healthy, but from a design standpoint it’s made no progress. Hasn’t been touched since April 22nd- So time for some work I think!

Option #1, less drastic. Jin all the growth above the line. Not much foliage but will likely affect Shari?

Option #2, a considerable amount of foliage would be cut off. About half, actually. But I don’t want it to gain any more strength because it has to go at some point! Shouldn’t affect Shari because a portion of the branch, the future rest of the tree, will be left.


Here’s some lame pics. The Shari healed quite a bit on the lower portion, but oh well live and learn. Bark also needs attended to..

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Forgot to add that I would like to get this planted at a better angle in spring, so that should influence my decision
 

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Forgot to add that I would like to get this planted at a better angle in spring, so that should influence my decision

Do you wat to repot to just change the angle or has it completely filled the pot?
If not you could just put a wedge below the pot to adjust the angle
 

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I'd do all three next year.
Deadwood,foliage reduction and planting angle.
 

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Do you wat to repot to just change the angle or has it completely filled the pot?
If not you could just put a wedge below the pot to adjust the angle
Yeah that’s what I’ve been doing, but the pots super ugly and the soil is probably 3” below the rim. It’s in a 50/50 perlite/bark mix now and I’d like to work it towards actual Bonsai soil. So there’s a few reasons anyway, plus it’s nice to have a real pot even if it’s just a training one. It has a long way to go as far as potting and roots.
 

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I'd do all three next year.
Deadwood,foliage reduction and planting angle.
Do all three in one go in spring? Maybe. If it were a maple I’d have no problem doing that, but like I said I don’t know anything about conifers. This and a large Kishu are the only Junis I have. I still don’t understand the basics.
 

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Do all three in one go in spring? Maybe. If it were a maple I’d have no problem doing that, but like I said I don’t know anything about conifers. This and a large Kishu are the only Junis I have. I still don’t understand the basics.
Then by all means take your time. I'm a brute with these things.
I would at least get the planting angle changed in the spring.
With maybe some foliage coming off.
 

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The growth on the outside is nice and dense, but not so much in the interior. May use a wire to spread it open to allow some light.
 

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