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I would like to ask those who have knowledge, on how to plant a Bonsai and make it look like a TREE? I know the basics and then some, but am having troubles to get the proper height and depth of some of my Bonsai in their pots. I have a ton of good looking Bonsai ready for their FINAL pots, but would like hints on how to make them into the trees they're suppose to be.
Thanks. KJ
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I deal with alot of usda zone 5a trees.
 

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Why would you post this without pictures?
 

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Why would you post this without pictures?
I'm sorry smoke, now I know what you mean, that made me laugh after all of todays chatter, I have to go to bed!
 
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Yes. We'd like to see some pics of a "ton" of trees ready for "final" pots.
 

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I would like to ask those who have knowledge, on how to plant a Bonsai and make it look like a TREE? I know the basics and then some, but am having troubles to get the proper height and depth of some of my Bonsai in their pots. I have a ton of good looking Bonsai ready for their FINAL pots, but would like hints on how to make them into the trees they're suppose to be.

The bold lines seem to contradict. I agree, pics would help a lot (though I am not supposed to answer being not knowledgeable enough. ;) )
 

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The bold lines seem to contradict. QUOTE]

How do trees ready for pots, and achieving the correct planting height contradict? Could you explain that so it is more understandable to all.
 

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The bold lines seem to contradict.

How do trees ready for pots, and achieving the correct planting height contradict? Could you explain that so it is more understandable to all.

For me, if the proper/desired height and depth are still not attained, then it is still in training. You can put it in it's FINAL pot but will take you longer to fix whatever you need to do. Is my reasoning wrong?
 

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This is one way

Usually you need to carefully plan the fall path, then use the felling guides on the saw to assure the angle is the one desired. Make sure there are no power lines or vehicles, or structures within a 90 degree fan pattern in the direction you are dropping the trunk, and absolutely be prepared for the tree to do the unexpected - twist, kick back, jump, or other actions dictated by torsional energy.

Of course most of this is negated by the fact that bonsai felling is on a lot smaller scale.

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Unless you have your computer protected, do NOT click on the ABS link. I did and got that virus warning (again!).
 

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For me, if the proper/desired height and depth are still not attained, then it is still in training. You can put it in it's FINAL pot but will take you longer to fix whatever you need to do. Is my reasoning wrong?

I think he meant proper/desired planting height/depth, not tree height. Which is, of course, a part of putting it in any pot, and all the more important when you're putting it in the intended final pot.
 

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I think he meant proper/desired planting height/depth, not tree height. Which is, of course, a part of putting it in any pot, and all the more important when you're putting it in the intended final pot.

Possibly. But that is not how I interpreted his post. As always, I could be mistaken. :)
 

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I would like to ask those who have knowledge, on how to plant a Bonsai and make it look like a TREE? I know the basics and then some, but am having troubles to get the proper height and depth of some of my Bonsai in their pots. I have a ton of good looking Bonsai ready for their FINAL pots, but would like hints on how to make them into the trees they're suppose to be.
Thanks. KJ
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I deal with alot of usda zone 5a trees.

I might be mistaken here. However, I think the original poster is referring to actually getting the root ball of his/her trees into an appropriate size bonsai pot. I don't think he is talking about the tree above the soil. If this is the case, then the answer is somewhat straight forward. However, there are 2 things involved, time and effort. The reason why you are having a ton of trouble getting them into appropriate size bonsai pots is because, like the tree itself, the root ball needs to be trained. What does this mean? It means that when you get a tree, reduce roots, sometimes drastically,under proper conditions. Then the tree goes into a grow pot for 2-4 years plus to recover. After this time, the tree is then taken out of the pot and hopefully has produced a lot of feeder roots. Now, the root ball is reduced again. Sometimes it can go into an appropriate size bonsai pot. Sometimes it has to go into a slightly larger bonsai pot than you would normally use. It will be on the next repot in the next 2-4 years that the tree should be able to go into the appropriate size bonsai pot.

Also, when training a tree's root ball, growing as many fine feeder roots is the goal. The other goal is to eliminate or reduce large roots and stump protrutions. These can interfere with getting the tree on the correct planting angle or getting it in the apporpriae size pots. If you have been growing these trees for four years directly from a nursery and did not train the root ball, I am sorry to tell you this, but it might be another 3-4 years before they can go into an appropriate size bonsai pot. However, this does not mean they cannot go into a slightly larger bonsai pot and still look nice in the meantime. A good thing to keep in mind is that bonsai are trained from the root ball up, not the base of the tree up. It's like trying to build a house without a foundation.

I hope this was helpful and the answers that you were looking for.

Rob
 
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Whatever . . . I suspect our responses to this question have scared this fellow so far away we'll never hear from him again -- tho I hope not.
 
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Sorry to be so BIZZY in my other WORLD, but I thought I could get hints fro of you self-proclaimed experts. so the next time I post some STUPID questions on this site I SHALL post pictures, I thought the so-called EXPERTS could give me a hint on hoe to re-position my trees in their pots. Sorry Smoke, and your arese SMOKE and you following, guess its up to me to ask myself for help an SUCH a BASIC question.
 
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Perhaps when I can RETIRE from my usual JOB ( a 27 yr military and war veteran) that I can on the same focus as you ALL!
Thanks for your HELP!
 
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If you don't understand my simple thread from the beginning ( to just get my trees into a reasonable look) than all you so co called experts can KMA!
all my love sincerely
( I've been doing Bonsai more than some of you have been ALIVE)
Thanks again.
KJ
 
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