Global Warming plant Shuffle?

[GrimLore]

Today it is a little over 92f with a heat index of 101 and "possible" thunderstorms. The same weather is expected over the next several days and EXTREMELY odd for this area. As far as I know we have not even looked at any new properties on the Equator so chances are my Wife has not talked me into signing and moving while I was not paying attention

Not certain what the heck is going on but I am positive I have never shuffled plants after Spring until this year - I am starting to think as we look at properties that I will be doing a series of pergola systems with misters like Judy did but in addition perhaps have electronic roll out/up awnings installed just above all of them to save a bit of the "shuffle".

Anyone here doing this? If so pictures please. If not input and thoughts appreciated.

Thank you,
Grim

 

[coh]

We're sitting at 91 deg with dewpoint 72 for a heat index of 98. My trees are staying put. Pines are in full sun, most deciduous are in a location where they are shaded by a tree during the later parts of the afternoon this time of year. I might consider moving some things if air temps were to reach or surpass 95 or so but that's extremely rare up here.

I'm surprised to hear you talk about how unusual this kind of heat is in your area. I grew up on Long Island and every summer featured at least a few heat waves like this. I wouldn't think SE Pennsylvania would be any stranger to hot summer weather. Now if you want to talk about the amount of rain we've had this year, that's another matter!

Stay cool,

Chris

 

[berobinson82]

I'm fortunate to have both shade and sun in my back yard but I was talking about this yesterday. Here in VA, it's almost as if we've entered a tropical climate. 90s, high humidity, frequent yet transient thunderstorms, and moderately cool nights. The humidity kicks my butt, though my little trees seem to like this weather just fine.

 

[Beng]

I set up a drip system this year. I have around 80 heads coming off it, some plants have 2 misters others only have one. The misters i used were C-Frame downsprays as I don't want the foliage getting wet only the soil. One 3/4 inch line feeds the whole system. Since my benches are slotted just wider then 3/4 inch I can run this line from one to the other without any clutter on the benches. The misters hook directly into the 3/4 inch line via barbed connectors. It's pretty simple but does a good job watering mid day on hot days when i'm at work.

Ben

 

[davetree]

When it gets real hot here, like it is today and for the next week, I put my trees on the ground in the grass. It keeps the roots much cooler than anything else I have done, including shade, misting, or mulch on the pots. Cuts the watering down too. I have a fenced area for my trees so Ivan get away with it.

 

[Beng]

Here's a link to the misters I mentioned. They're more like mini sprinklers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgpUN2p2Lik&feature=youtu.be

 

[GrimLore]

TY all! As far as the heat in the area I am living we are almost dead center of the Pocono Mountains and the Jersey Shore so we RARELY have weather extremes until recent.

The property we are selling is large and for the most part the only thing I have put in here was a hothouse for potted plants and a series of indoor setups for tropical plants in the winter. I have and use a lot of already existing concrete patio and the crushed stone area you see in my avatar for the summer. We are Blessed and will get almost 2 mil more then we expected for this property so when we move I will have a little "buffer" to make things a bit easier to manage at the new location.

We plan on a large SINGLE level ranch with between 3/4 and 2 acres in the same area. The ranch style will give us the ability to have "walk outs" in most any room and I am thinking to do a crushed stone base, pergola, misting, and roll up black bamboo blinds on the sides and POSSIBLY the roll out/up awnings over the top in 3-4 locations.

I feel that this will make things very open but yet very easy to control what Mother Nature brings to some extent and give me more time to ENJOY plants rather then worry about them

Honest I have never seen those type of setups and this group is so diverse I was thinking I could get input on my concept by asking it is it viable or will I have problems that I am not seeing...

 

[monza]

Here's a link to the misters I mentioned. They're more like mini sprinklers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgpUN2p2Lik&feature=youtu.be

Pretty slick little system for sure.

 

[jkd2572]

I use the same sprayer heads when I'm on vacation. They are great. I get them from www.dripworks.com. Super pot coverage. On another note I keep all trees in shade after 12:00 here. We have super burning sun. I start this when temps reach 95. I think our shade is more potent than some people's full sun.

 

[Beng]

I use the same sprayer heads when I'm on vacation. They are great. I get them from www.dripworks.com. Super pot coverage. On another note I keep all trees in shade after 12:00 here. We have super burning sun. I start this when temps reach 95. I think our shade is more potent than some people's full sun.

Are you using the blue or black heads? I'm currently using the black ones. I also ordered a few of http://www.dripworks.com/product/Q_MSBU which give a really good flat spray on small shohin pots. I plan to order more of them to replace a few of the c-frame downsprays which give a wider radial spray.

 

[edprocoat]

I personally am happy about the Global Cooling we are currently experiencing here in Ohio, today it was only 90 for the high and the record for this date of 100 was set back in 1988! That's 24 degrees cooler than it was 25 years ago! I sure hope this global cooling slows soon. The record high temperature for Ohio was set way back on July 23 1934, so it seems it has really picked up the pace the last 25 years. Its enough to cause a simple mind to worry that they may actually have some effect on this occurrence, but afterall, what is man if not in control of everything.

ed

 

[GrimLore]

Our extremes here have changed so much in the last 5 seasons it has really changed the way I have been doing things. I am hoping when we move the things I implement will not only look steller but are also extremely functional. We have gone as far as to include an extra room that can be accessed with no stairs to use for wintering tropical plants and be a separate living space for our Sulcata Tortoise during the Winter months. I am thinking the black bamboo roll up side panels for wind control, The overhead misting system Judy has, a retractable flat awning(electric) professionally installed on/over/around 2-3 Pergola with Crushed stone as a base will give us back some control over Mother Natures Mood Swings without the shuffle...

Any more thoughts or ideas greatly appreciated

 

[Poink88]

Any more thoughts or ideas greatly appreciated

I think something used for ages for exactly the situations you described is called greenhouse. LOL (runs and hides)

 

[pwk5017]

Yeah, if you are making a 2 million profit off your house sale, why are you not building a crazy geodesic dome greenhouse? Then, put all the automated climate control options in there you want. Heat it, auto vent it, shade covering, humidity, you can control everything you want in an enclosed environment--for the right price.

 

[JudyB]

I think your idea of an auto awning is a good one. I have thought about doing it, but instead, have just expanded into a couple of new areas to take advantage of the sun movement around the trees. I do have my manual roll down sides to my wind house, although I have to say, I use them primarily for storm protection. I would not just build a greenhouse, although having one for winter is great. Who wants to visit their trees in a greenhouse when you can have them about in your landscape? Besides, they are not so easy to keep cool in the summer, even with ventilation.

Hey Ed, it may have been a hotter record, but it's still warmer overall here now than historically...I plant my garden on average a week earlier than I used to, and get a later growing season as well.

 

[jkd2572]

Are you using the blue or black heads? I'm currently using the black ones. I also ordered a few of http://www.dripworks.com/product/Q_MSBU which give a really good flat spray on small shohin pots. I plan to order more of them to replace a few of the c-frame downsprays which give a wider radial spray.

Black heads. They are perfect

 

[jkd2572]

I deal with temps of 105 f. I laugh when people talk about putting trees in full sun.

 

[Poink88]

I deal with temps of 105 f. I laugh when people talk about putting trees in full sun.

More than half of my plants are in full sun (not by choice) and we have similar temps. They are doing well...even newly collected trees (again not my preference but no choice). Others should be ok since most have milder weather than us. Don't you agree?

 

[Beng]

More than half of my plants are in full sun (not by choice) and we have similar temps. They are doing well...even newly collected trees (again not my preference but no choice). Others should be ok since most have milder weather than us. Don't you agree?

I think it depends on the plants. I'm noticing some burn on some of my maples, a 30% shade cloth is going up tomorrow morning in my backyard till we're back to more seasonal 80 degree temps. Here in the city we get a lot of reflected heat off pavement and concrete as well. All my trees are elevated off the ground but reflected heat still effects them. Some grass would be a BIG buffer here in Brooklyn, but I make due with what I have. It sure beats the 110 degree temps we'd sometimes hit in Los Angles, although i'd give my left arm for some of that dry air this week! 110 degrees there feels like 85 degrees here with our near 80+% humidity.

 

[edprocoat]

Hey Ed, it may have been a hotter record, but it's still warmer overall here now than historically...I plant my garden on average a week earlier than I used to, and get a later growing season as well.

Actually Judy although we keep hearing from the liberal media that its heating up, the earth has been on a cooling trend the last 20 years, dropping almost a full 2 degrees in temperature. It sure seems hotter to me, the drought of 1988 did not seem as hot to me as it does now despite recorded temps averaging cooler, but maybe the extra 50 lbs and the 30+ years make it seem worse ?

ed