this has been sitting here awhile.....
Best one i ever saw was on the dek of toshio sakai, famous koi breeder. was about 10 inches tall, 3/4 of an inch in diameter and a cluset of grapes about 4 incles long. ever since i wanted one. I have a brass figurine of a fox that i always wanted to put under the grap cluster.
have no idea how old they have to be to fruit or if you can get a start from a bearing vine. Wish i'd have had this urge two decades ago when my uncles were still alive. They were employees of taylor wine company from upstate NY. they could have told me....anyone know pls share