Help identifying a Satsuki cultivar. Any hint is welcome.

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It's a simple one, lovely color and shape.
I would love to know its Japanese name.

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Thanks in advance!
 

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Isn't that Yata no Kagami? But with a very pale flower only? Not sure because only one flower that is atypical for the wide range. But seems somewhat close.
 

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Isn't that Yata no Kagami? But with a very pale flower only? Not sure because only one flower that is atypical for the wide range. But seems somewhat close.

Thanks , I have a Yata no Kagami and the color of the flowers are much stronger.
But it could be, I appreciate it.
Let's see if anyone has another go.
 

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Since we are talking about Satsuki naming, I've got a few others that I'd like to identify as I am not really sure about their names.
Images below, if anyone could help I'd be very happy.

Purchased as Yata no Kagami
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Purchased as Akemi no Tsuki
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Unidentified cultivar n# 1:
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Unidentified cultivar n# 2:
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Any help will be much appreciated, thanks.
 

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@Pitoon could you give us any hints here?
Without tags it's almost impossible to pin point to the exact cultivar. The flowers that are genetically mutated are somewhat easier like kinsai, hanabin, chojuho...etc. Other than that is all a guess. Ensuring tags dont get lost is extremely important.
 

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Ot pinkI don't think that is Yata No Kagami, I have a number of them and the flower is much darker though the flower color does vary some.
This is Yata No Kagami.
Yes, I've got a yatanokagami that is red&white, not pale pink.
This one above is from a good friend that needs to be sure of the cultivar for sales purposes.
 

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I don't think that is Yata No Kagami, I have a number of them and the flower is much darker though the flower color does vary some.
This is Yata No Kagami.

You can have all the flowers go pale. The egg-shape pattern can get so dominant that it leaves you with only reddish tips. Just like the flower in the OP.
Because I remembered that Clicio had a labeled Yata no Kagami, this was my guess. Also, because they can compare this one to the labeled Yata no Kagami and compare flower shape or leaf shape.
Also, I saw there were more flower buds on this plant. But it could be this is a pale sport that no longer can produce the solid reds and red with tamafu.

I also thought it may be Yata no Kagami because of the flower shape, the stamen count (though 5 is extremely common) and the colour and positioning of the blotch.
If you'd argue that we should probably call it 'Shinkyo' instead, fine sure.
Since tsumabeni is not very common, I'd say Yata no Kagami is still a good guess.
What other common satsuki have tsumabeni and have this flower shape (elongated petals)?

Actually, for the plant labeled 'Yata no Kagami' I am surprised how rounded and ruffled the petals are. That is non-standard.

The 'Akemi no Tsuki' seems correct.
 

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Why do satsuki have 5, 6, or 7 petals I thought all species were identified by petal number?
 

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Rhododendron species generally have 5 petals. However cultivar were selected or cross-bred for certain mutations, including an unstable number of petals.
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