Thank youAll 3 appear to be black pines.
Black pine has thick, white candles (new shoots)
Red pine has thinner, dark candles and softer needles.
thanks again! I thought the candles looked a bit darker on this one, so might be a red?! I have some more I think might be red. I'll post another photo.Looks very black pine to me. The candles are just a bit stronger on that one.
What makes you ask about that one in particular?
all of them are 2 per cluster.how many needles per cluster? 2 or 3?
Very informative. Thank you.Japanese Red Pine, Pinus densiflora has softer, finer, deeper green needles, and red buds. They start growing just a bit earlier than Japanese Black pines, and take slightly longer to harden off. The growth rate of red pines is slightly slower than black pines.
Here is a comparison of buds on JRP (left) and JBP (right).
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A comparison of shoots, JRP left, JBP right:
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Yours look like black pines.
@Brian Van Fleet has given a good description of the differences. After the candles open I often find it difficult to distinguish between some black and some red pines. Much easier when the new buds are smaller.are the two types easy to mistake for one another when they're young?
Thanks.@Brian Van Fleet has given a good description of the differences. After the candles open I often find it difficult to distinguish between some black and some red pines. Much easier when the new buds are smaller.
Add to that the 2 species appear to cross pollinate so some seed sources give intermediate hybrids.
From what I can see all the pines in the pics look like black pine.
The soil mix looks like mainly garden soil? Not usually good for trees in pots and especially pines.
Have you purchased these? Collected? Grown from seed? Is there any reason why one or more should be red pine or are you just hoping against hope?