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The photos of these two trees do not provide enough clearity, detail or uncluttered color and detail. I am not even sure wht they look like. This is a constant problem with people who come to this forum, not taking enough time concentrating on taking photos.
 

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I trained and shown a Hinoki back in 88. I don't have the original photos, but I do have prints.
The first pic is when just trimmed, wired and repotted in Aug. '88.
I was only 3 years a novice at the art of Bonsai.
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The second pic was after turning it around and removed the lower two branches and new pot in spring '92.
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This last photo was taken in '98 just before it was liberated from my possession. It had won many ribbons and a couple best in show at local fair. I actually had one of the other Bonsai exhibitors accuse me of importing it from Japan. After the initial wiring it was pinch, pinch and pinch. I would hold sections of the pads and just pinch the longer shoots. This technique made it fill in quite well. Only fingers because trimming with scissors makes the tips of the shoots brown.
I also found it like the soil moist, but not damp. And I always had to remove the moss growing around it. If you don't watch it the most would try to grow up the base of trunk.
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I bought this Thoweil Hinoki in the spring and chopped it pretty good. I let it sit over the summer and fall just sitting there because it never spoke to me. Well today I was looking at it and thought I'd see what I had. After a little cleaning and wire I think I'm off to a good start.271425271426
 

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The photos of these two trees do not provide enough clearity, detail or uncluttered color and detail. I am not even sure what they look like. This is a constant problem with people who come to this forum, not taking enough time concentrating on taking photos.
Sorry Vance, I guess I was in too much of a hurry to show them to you. Also, the pots are over 100# and they are tough to rearrange for better lighting.
 

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Just in off the truck from California, 5 "dwarfs". Haven't looked at the roots yet, getting a cold snap coming in, will leave as is till Sunday.

Labeled 3 dwarf Golden Cypress, a dwarf White Cedar, and Arborvitae.
The hinoki are exactly the same size of my gold hinoki bonsai when I bought it at least 10 years ago,
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Which is showing some signs of a struggle heading into this Winter late last Fall.
It was due to get a new pot this Spring, now I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
Anyway, since it started this behavior, I decided to get a couple back ups.
They do not seem to be the same variety of Golden hinoki.
 

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I don't know what to tell you about the new arrivals. Understanding wherre they came from and where they now, raises more questions than I would care to address at present. You need to get then in under shelter with them mulched up to the top of the pot and some sort of barier placed on the sun side of the tree that will keep them from getting warm enough to start budding. You do not want them to become active until at lest the middle of April, earl May if possible.
 

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I don't know what to tell you about the new arrivals. Understanding wherre they came from and where they now, raises more questions than I would care to address at present. You need to get then in under shelter with them mulched up to the top of the pot and some sort of barier placed on the sun side of the tree that will keep them from getting warm enough to start budding. You do not want them to become active until at lest the middle of April, earl May if possible.
Thanks Vance. Trees came from a closing nursery in Grand Rapids area ( they had been planted in the yard as specimen trees for over 30 years). Already have them in my new hoop house and won't see them till spring.
 

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I picked this one up last year and repotted it and got rid of a few branches. It survived. I like the tree and it has a good amount of close foliage. I’ve settled on the front being somewhere between pic 2 & 3. Possibly try to ground layer in the future. What do you all think?CF09FAD6-3D86-49D7-94AB-C2664750B811.jpegEF5C6121-31EC-4F96-A78D-ECF229AC7135.jpegB97126AE-D8E6-4038-B7F9-D74E81E2C939.jpeg
 

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I got this Hinoki last fall as nursery stock and the weather has everything waking up around here, so I decided to get it out of as much of the clay that it was in without barerooting it and putting it in a pot.20200215_145815.jpg
 
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Here's a hinoki I bought last summer at a local nursery, variety "Baby Doll"

Last photo is initial styling, and it looked like the graft was forming an enlarged trunk base but alas, it was localized to just the graft as I discovered after pruning the roots. Now I'll have to fix it, I'll probably try cutting the trunk (the slitting method), and if that fails then maybe a ground layer just below the graft.
 

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I would not worry about the graft at this point, if you succeed in developing a decent nebari at the base the nebari will over time make the graft look reasonable.
You would be better served by working on your wiring skills.
 
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Yeah, the initial wiring of this tree was pretty bad. Maybe it's no excuse, but wiring for me isn't like riding a bike, I get rusty and have to start almost from the beginning. Plus I'm not great with copper and mixed copper with aluminum because I didn't have all the gauges... bottom line is, you're right.
 

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Here’s an update from post #7 in this thread. I just repotted it into a ceramic pot almost as big as the kitty litter box it was in when the earlier photo was shot. The roots had grown out into the new soil and filled in where I made the oie shaped cutouts. I raked out the roots and cut some off the bottom and it dropped into this pot. It still sits a bit highr than I wiuld like but that will be cut down more in future repots. Right now I have it wired to pull the longer branches back in closer to the trunk and also am busy pinching the foliage to develop larger pads. Over the coming years it will fill in and hopefully the trunk will thicken a bit more.

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This is a hinoki 'contorta' that I picked up and bare rooted last year. I removed the top third of the tree and am now just letting it recover for a couple of years. I've killed all my other hinokis, so this one will go slow. I had some minor dieback over the winter, so I removed them but didn't touch any other foliage.

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