Bonsaiboy
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I'm still a noob, so I really haven't had to worry about nebari yet. I decided to check to see if my willow had nice nebari, and this is what I found. Is this good?
Is this good nebari?
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Poink88
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Looks good but are you sure that is willow?
Looks like willow to me.
Is it good nebari though? I would say not, at the moment, as it is too early in this trees journey for the nebari to have developed. What you have is radial roots, the nebari will fill in as the tree develops and thickens.
Pruning these thick roots to about an inch from the trunk, and burying the trunk base an inch or more when re-potting will assist in the development of the nebari by causing new roots to form near the base of the trunk. Willows grow roots very easily, but protect the tree from wind and hot sun after such treatment when re-potting for about 4-6 weeks after buds shoot. Pruning branches back to one or two buds when re-potting will assist in the trees recovery.
These new roots will fuse over time with teh roots you have now and form your nebari.
If you leave the tree as it is now, the current roots will simply thicken and may not fuse nicely to form a good nebari, but one with large gaps.
Sorry, but I have no pictures of willow nebari, nor any other species, so that you may judge my experience and suitability in answering your question. You will simply have to take my advice with a pinch of salt.
Regards
Paul
Is it good nebari though? I would say not, at the moment, as it is too early in this trees journey for the nebari to have developed. What you have is radial roots, the nebari will fill in as the tree develops and thickens.
Pruning these thick roots to about an inch from the trunk, and burying the trunk base an inch or more when re-potting will assist in the development of the nebari by causing new roots to form near the base of the trunk. Willows grow roots very easily, but protect the tree from wind and hot sun after such treatment when re-potting for about 4-6 weeks after buds shoot. Pruning branches back to one or two buds when re-potting will assist in the trees recovery.
These new roots will fuse over time with teh roots you have now and form your nebari.
If you leave the tree as it is now, the current roots will simply thicken and may not fuse nicely to form a good nebari, but one with large gaps.
Sorry, but I have no pictures of willow nebari, nor any other species, so that you may judge my experience and suitability in answering your question. You will simply have to take my advice with a pinch of salt.
Regards
Paul
Poink88
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The willow I know have elongated leaves...these doesn't. Maybe it is a different variety.
The "nebari" looks good to me for the age of the tree. I agree that it is not "nebari" per se yet...but in time (and w/ proper care) I believe it will be since it is well distributed already.
The "nebari" looks good to me for the age of the tree. I agree that it is not "nebari" per se yet...but in time (and w/ proper care) I believe it will be since it is well distributed already.
Redwood Ryan
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Looks like Willow to me too.
I wouldn't say it's terrific nebari, but it's a good start. I'd cover the roots back up and hope for feeder roots to sprout from those roots, and really make a more solid feeling base.
I wouldn't say it's terrific nebari, but it's a good start. I'd cover the roots back up and hope for feeder roots to sprout from those roots, and really make a more solid feeling base.
I wouldn't say it's terrific nebari, but it's a good start. I'd cover the roots back up and hope for feeder roots to sprout from those roots, and really make a more solid feeling base.
That seems like good advice, Ryan. But since there are no photos to accompany that information, I am not sure of its veracity.
Dario,
I kind of think of nebari as either there or not, if its not there, its neither good nor bad.
Is it possible to start developing nebari too early? What does good willow nebari look like? Must say that all the willow I've seen on river and creek banks doesn't really have any nebari. Even the big ol' rotting ones. Should we be developing a trident type nebari on willow?
Paul
That seems like good advice, Ryan. But since there are no photos to accompany that information, I am not sure of its veracity.
Dario,
I kind of think of nebari as either there or not, if its not there, its neither good nor bad.
Is it possible to start developing nebari too early? What does good willow nebari look like? Must say that all the willow I've seen on river and creek banks doesn't really have any nebari. Even the big ol' rotting ones. Should we be developing a trident type nebari on willow?
Paul
Redwood Ryan
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Poink88
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To me, it depends on what he is trying to depict. If it is to be a true willow, maybe you are right. If he want to simulate something else (which was my interpretation), then what he has is a very good start.
FYI, I've seen willows with nice nebari but then again, they are mostly on parks by lakes...not raging rivers or on eroding banks. Different location, different adaptation.
FYI, I've seen willows with nice nebari but then again, they are mostly on parks by lakes...not raging rivers or on eroding banks. Different location, different adaptation.
Hmmm, I really would like a picture of an old willow now. Maybe different location is important? Not many raging rivers here in Aus, but have to admit that while willow (the weeping variety, S. babylonica) is a noxious weed and grows everywhere, it doesn't last long before borers eat out the center and the tree falls over, maybe 30-40 years. I'll have to pay more attention to willow nebari in future.
Paul
Hmmm, I really would like a picture of an old willow now. Maybe different location is important? Not many raging rivers here in Aus, but have to admit that while willow (the weeping variety, S. babylonica) is a noxious weed and grows everywhere, it doesn't last long before borers eat out the center and the tree falls over, maybe 30-40 years. I'll have to pay more attention to willow nebari in future.
Paul
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