Itoigawa eu?

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Does anyone know reasonably priced Itoigawa juniper source in the eu, I live in Ireland and haven't been able to find any places that will sell cuttings or anything to do with them.

Any leads or replies will be greatly appreciated thank you.
 

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This place called bonsaiplaza in the netherlands (or belgium?) has had them in the past. Send him an email to inquire about them, he might have some more.
Otherwise, maybe ask Leatherback if he wants to ship a few.
I know he is trying to build a stockpile of them, like I am. I only know that my stockpile is going to take a few more years, maybe he's further along.

Otherwise, maybe try some French stores; I saw a lot of French/Belgians selling shimpaku varieties at Noelanders: both kishu as well as itoigawa.
 

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This place called bonsaiplaza in the netherlands (or belgium?) has had them in the past. Send him an email to inquire about them, he might have some more.
Otherwise, maybe ask Leatherback if he wants to ship a few.
I know he is trying to build a stockpile of them, like I am. I only know that my stockpile is going to take a few more years, maybe he's further along.

Otherwise, maybe try some French stores; I saw a lot of French/Belgians selling shimpaku varieties at Noelanders: both kishu as well as itoigawa.

Thank you so much, just emailed bonsaiplaza said they have them in stock and cost 10€ + 25 shipping not sure if that's a good price but really want one so thank you.
 

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10 euros seems like a fair price for the cuttings I got from him, around 20cm tall with good roots and lots of low branches. Usually there's a branch or two with it's own roots too. I base that on the few I bought last year.
In comparison, there's a dutch plant store that sells 'var. Shimpaku' for 35 euros per cutting, excluding 10 euros for national shipping.

The germans and french might be cheaper, so it might pay off to google translate some pages. But since bonsaiplaza helped me a whole lot, I recommend him the most. Seems like a cool guy.
 

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10 euros seems like a fair price for the cuttings I got from him, around 20cm tall with good roots and lots of low branches. Usually there's a branch or two with it's own roots too. I base that on the few I bought last year.
In comparison, there's a dutch plant store that sells 'var. Shimpaku' for 35 euros per cutting, excluding 10 euros for national shipping.

The germans and french might be cheaper, so it might pay off to google translate some pages. But since bonsaiplaza helped me a whole lot, I recommend him the most. Seems like a cool guy.

It's definitely worth it in that case and did you talk to him through the email [edit - removed by request of poster] and like do the order through email and everything, sorry for the question it's just I'm new and don't want to get scammed.
 
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Yeah that's the one. His name is Maarten.
He's the real deal and a lot of dutch forum users can vouch for him I believe. I don't know him personally, but some of them do. They pointed me in his direction.

I think it would be nice of you to edit your comment to obscure that address a little, so that he doesn't get spammed by crawlers that use publicly posted email addresses for a variety of nuisances. It's kind of an unwritten rule of most forums. This guy is just running a small business as far as I know. It would be a shame if he had to go through millions of viagra offers to find actual customer questions ;-)

Another thing to keep in mind, is the blaauws juniper. You can probably get those in Ireland as well. I personally think they have better foliage than itoigawa, but they grow a lot slower. Now that I have both, I really believe the Japanese varieties are a bit.. well.. dull. Itoigawa turns golden brown in winter, blaauws stays blueish green (glaucous?).
I prefer my conifers in one color throughout the seasons.

In just a few years I expect the blaauws to pop up in shows. I've already seen them mislabeled as kishu in some bonsai stores.
 

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Yeah that's the one. His name is Maarten.
He's the real deal and a lot of dutch forum users can vouch for him I believe. I don't know him personally, but some of them do. They pointed me in his direction.

I think it would be nice of you to edit your comment to obscure that address a little, so that he doesn't get spammed by crawlers that use publicly posted email addresses for a variety of nuisances. It's kind of an unwritten rule of most forums. This guy is just running a small business as far as I know. It would be a shame if he had to go through millions of viagra offers to find actual customer questions ;-)

Another thing to keep in mind, is the blaauws juniper. You can probably get those in Ireland as well. I personally think they have better foliage than itoigawa, but they grow a lot slower. Now that I have both, I really believe the Japanese varieties are a bit.. well.. dull. Itoigawa turns golden brown in winter, blaauws stays blueish green (glaucous?).
I prefer my conifers in one color throughout the seasons.

In just a few years I expect the blaauws to pop up in shows. I've already seen them mislabeled as kishu in some bonsai stores.
Sorry I never even thought about it I'm gonna have to do the contact us thing and ask them to remove it cause I can't edit, sorry again honestly just didn't think about that at all.

And thank you I'm gonna order a couple itoigawa from him just wanted to make sure :) and try find see if their are any blaauws in any place in ireland and hopefully get some of them cause to be honest they sound like they look beautiful :) thank you again so much :)))
 

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I bought some quite big plants of Shimpaku for 7.99EUR from this local shop:
https://www.fragaria.sk/product/sk/borievka-cinska-shimpaku-juniperus-chinensis-30-40-cm-kont-3l/
They have fantastic dense foliage, each of them 3 or 4 trunks of 40cm length. On their own roots AFAICT.
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This UK eBay seller claims to have Itoigawa in stock: https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/conifersuk See description of this item (is repeated in many items) for example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pinus-Mo...136733?hash=item2f31460a9d:g:WWkAAOSwM1ZbYwkM
 

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Hi Eku,

What part of Ireland are you from?
There is couple of Bonsai Clubs around, might be good idea to check with them.
 

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I bought some quite big plants of Shimpaku for 7.99EUR from this local shop:
https://www.fragaria.sk/product/sk/borievka-cinska-shimpaku-juniperus-chinensis-30-40-cm-kont-3l/
They have fantastic dense foliage, each of them 3 or 4 trunks of 40cm length. On their own roots AFAICT.
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This UK eBay seller claims to have Itoigawa in stock: https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/conifersuk See description of this item (is repeated in many items) for example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pinus-Mo...136733?hash=item2f31460a9d:g:WWkAAOSwM1ZbYwkM
ill have to check out them websites and see if they deliver and hope they do cause they sound perfect thank you :)
 

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Hi Eku,

What part of Ireland are you from?
There is couple of Bonsai Clubs around, might be good idea to check with them.
im in county clare and from what ive checked they dont have any clubs for bonsai besides bunratty but they only have regular junipers and chinese elm and stuff like that.
 

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ill have to check out them websites and see if they deliver and hope they do cause they sound perfect thank you :)
If there's an issue with communication/language just let me know. I can interpret for you. On their page only Slovakia, Czech Republic and Hungary are mentioned as countries for delivery but I guess there should not be any problem if you're willing to pay for the transport...
 

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im in county clare and from what ive checked they dont have any clubs for bonsai besides bunratty but they only have regular junipers and chinese elm and stuff like that.

There is Muster Bonsai club, i guess not that far from you,
they do have regular meetings, im pretty sure some of the members might have the cuttings.....
I would drop them an email or msg on facebook before you buy online.
 
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I am a very much a newbie. Bought a small itiogawa starter the other day from The Bonsai Centre for £39. Unsure whether that is good value or not but the tree is in very good condition, with very little juvenile foliage, which I am taken to understand is a good thing. Assume they would ship to Ireland. Link below.

 
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