Japanese Flowering Quince cuttings in training.

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  1. bonhe

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    I am creating this topic to share with you some cuttings!
    This one started cutting in 2011. It was placed into pumice: peat moss with ratio 1:1.
    I was in good mood to transplant it this morning.
    It gave few flowers last year. As this morning, I can see it is producing lot of flower buds.
    Tree #1
    Before.
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  3. bonhe

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    Tree #1. After.
    I decided to put it in the bonsai pot. It has root bound! The interesting thing is the roots flared out at all direction and went straight down. I had to cut some roots right in the trunk base and intended making root exposed type tree. I used pumice: DG: Akadama: fir ground with ratio 1:1:1:1.
    Those tiny flower buds were pictured with magnified glass assistance. I guess those buds will produce red flowers.
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    Tree #2.
    This cutting was in 2010.
    It has very interesting behavior I could say. Its flower color has been changing from the early to the end stage!
    Pic.1, 2 were taken on 2/22/12.
    Pic. 3, 4 were taken on 2/29/12.
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    Tree#2.
    Its flowers was in 2013.
    I can see it was trying to show its mom's character!
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    Tree # 2.
    In 2014, another type of flower.
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    Tree #2.
    It was transplanted to the bonsai pot this morning. The soil is similar to tree #1 's soil.
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    Tree # 3.
    This one is Chojubai quince exchanged with Mr. Dick Benbow in 2014. I wanted to try Chojubai in hot dry area and Dick was kind enough to send me this cutting. It survived the first summer here in I.E. I did not constrain it so it could gain its strength. Last fall it gave only one tiny red flower.

    At this time, I can see lot of flower buds I think ( I have to use the magnified glass to look at!!!). The pictures were taken on 1/17/2015.

    Thanks Dick. How are your quince?
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  9. ianb

    ianb Shohin

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    Tuan,

    You have to tell me your secret to keeping Chojubai alive in Socal. We talked about this before you came on Saturday and we don't seem to be having any luck so you are the expert.
     
  10. dick benbow

    dick benbow Omono

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    Happy to hear your quince are doing well and especially your chojubai.

    I'm downsizing my home and leaving my acre or so for a tiny piece of property in a gated community of manufactured homes. All my trees are buried in bark placed on the soil underneath their benches and awaiting spring. I'll need to continually cut my numbers. So this year will be stressful as i pick and choose. I'm outta my home of 37 years on February 10th.

    Just for added adjustment, after close to 8 years of retirerment, I've gone back to full time work. How's that for a new year' challenge...:)

    I always enjoy your posts and love of quince....
     
  11. symbiotic1

    symbiotic1 Mame

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    I second this interest since I just found out a tree I thought was something else is, in fact, a japanese quince when it started flowering.
     
  12. bonhe

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    Hi Dick,
    I wish every thing will be fine for you and your family. I know it is very stressful time for you when you have to depart from your peaceful place over 1/3 century! I hope the decision of being back to work is your choice!

    Regarding to the Chojubai, I plan to let it stay in the current pot for one more year before separate them out to have more plant to play with.

    p/s: when you decide to separate any old pot, please let me know Dick. Thanks.
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  13. bonhe

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    Hi Ian,
    Sorry to miss the first period of last meeting!
    Thanks for applauding me! :)

    As you may well know, chojubai prefer cool, humidity to hot, dry environment. I am living in Inland Empire which is hot and dry in the summer. It is similar to low desert area.

    Because of it, I have to place the chojubai in the site which has relative cool in the garden.
    It is better to place the plant in the North side, but I don't have misty system to supply humidity in this area yet. So, the second choice is in the East side. I did not let the plant have direct contact to the sunlight. It has been receiving the indirect sunlight only (to me, Chojubai leaves are too thin and much less cutin comparing to the regular Japanese flowering quince. Because of this, the leaves will be burnt in no time under strong sunlight in my area -----> plant photosynthesis will be reduced seriously -------> plant health will go down hill ----> death can not be avoid!). I place the plant under the shade of the landscape tree.

    To give the humidity, I have been using the automatic timer misting system. In the summer, I let it run 4 times a day: at 6 am, noon, 3 pm and 5 pm. At noon and 3pm, run 2 minutes each. At other times, run 5 minutes each.

    At this time, I let it stay in the North side to let much cooler temperature ( I don't need humidity for the plant at this time since it is much less dry here).

    But like I said, this is the first year I have it, so I have to wait one more year to find out if it will be ok or not!
    Hope it will help you! :)
    Bonhe
     
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    They look great ! The first one you said may bloom red, I have seen flowers on both apple and cherry that look like they will bloom red as the buds are pink/red and they bloom white so who knows. Unless of course you seen them bloom red and I misunderstood your post. Another thing you said the Japanese quince need cooler areas to be happy. Last spring I bought a nice Chinese Quince from George Muranaka and it came through in great shape and very healthy. When summer hit and I was back in Ohio the heat and wind just devastated the plant along with the aphids constantly all over the sticky leaves. It was not a good choice for Ohio.

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    Tuan,

    Thanks so much for the info, I will try this I think. You have more success than me, I picked one up last year and it was gone in less than 2 months.

    I just need to pick up some cheaper Chojubai to try it out...

    Dick if you are looking to offload any let me know.

    Thanks
    Ian
     
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    Do you guys know why you are having difficulty growing Chojubai in Southern Cal? Just curious if it's the heat or whatnot. I picked up some good sized toyo nishiki on clearance last fall and am curious to their difficulties.


    --Joe
     
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    Another set of pictures to show that when you pay attention to the flower bud, you can give an accurate estimate of the flower type.
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    and those.
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    No problem at all Ian. Please let us know your progress.


    SoCa is too much hot and dry in the summer and it is hostile environment for Chojubai!
    Toyo nishiki is well tolerated with SoCa weather. I recognize that its flower color much more bright when it receives more sunlight. It should be fine in your area.
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  21. edprocoat

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    I think you are a little off the topic, because Chinese quince (Pseudocydonia sinensis) differs to Japanese flowering quince (Chaenomeles japonica)! ;-)
    Bonhe[/QUOTE]

    Yes I know they are different plants, I was comparing how my Chinese Quince definitely needed a cooler place too. I assumed it was hot out in California but watching the weather last year it always seemed to be in the 80's while in Ohio it was getting upper 90's when it got hot or did not rain.

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