Just in time for my birthday.

[namnhi]

This will be hopefully my last purchase for this year. As a hoarder, I can't just get 1 so I got 2. Also that help to justify the cost of shipping. I already have a few male plants so am hoping to use these as scion to learn how to graft.
@thumblessprimate1, are you up to show me how to graft?

 

[Bonsai Nut]

Watch the sun. At least where I live they are susceptible to sun scorch. Perhaps in Houston, with the humidity, it won't be as much of an issue. How do your males do?

 

[thumblessprimate1]

This will be hopefully my last purchase for this year. As a hoarder, I can't just get 1 so I got 2. Also that help to justify the cost of shipping. I already have a few male plants so am hoping to use these as scion to learn how to graft.
@thumblessprimate1, are you up to show me how to graft?

I just followed @bonhe 's tutorial. I modified how I did it, and maybe it works fine because we have more humidity. Do you have any root stock to practice on? I bet you could head over to jrn nursery and find some rootstock. Some of the persimmons dont make it, but roots survive. They might sell cheap or give it to ya. I haven't grafted persimmon, but it should follow be the same way. Cant say how good I'll be yet. ?

 

[JudyB]

Happy Birthday!!!

 

[namnhi]

Thank you Judy.

 

[namnhi]

I just followed @bonhe 's tutorial. I modified how I did it, and maybe it works fine because we have more humidity. Do you have any root stock to practice on? I bet you could head over to jrn nursery and find some rootstock. Some of the persimmons dont make it, but roots survive. They might sell cheap or give it to ya. I haven't grafted persimmon, but it should follow be the same way. Cant say how good I'll be yet. ?

Are they even compatible? I assume you are talking about the root stock for edible persimmon. Am really curious about that and wonder if anyone had done that - grafting princess persimmon onto American persimmon. @Leo in N E Illinois do you have any thoughts on that?

 

[namnhi]

Watch the sun. At least where I live they are susceptible to sun scorch. Perhaps in Houston, with the humidity, it won't be as much of an issue. How do your males do?

They got burnt fairly easily. The leaves dropped but they replaced with new buds. I think they need some shade to not get crispy. They are definitely like a lot of water.

 

[LanceMac10]

From the Sith..............

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Are they even compatible? I assume you are talking about the root stock for edible persimmon. Am really curious about that and wonder if anyone had done that - grafting princess persimmon onto American persimmon. @Leo in N E Illinois do you have any thoughts on that?

I think mostly lotus persimmon are used, not American. The ones from L E Cooke. Not sure about Dave Wilson or others.

 

[River's Edge]

Watch the sun. At least where I live they are susceptible to sun scorch. Perhaps in Houston, with the humidity, it won't be as much of an issue. How do your males do?

The sun is an issue for sure, my princess persimmon started to turn crispy in a day or two of stronger sun when i moved them up and further out on a bench placement. Edges of the leaves started to turn black and dry out. Back to the Shade and they are happy again.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

For edible persimmons, they use generic seed raised edible persimmons for slower growing edible cultivars, and Diospyros lotus for faster growing cultivars. Saw photos of weird wide diameter scions on narrow diameter root stock demonstrating why one choice was made over another. Don't have the article in my phone.

I think princess persimmons should only be grafted to same species as their growth rate is quite different than D lotus or D kaki.

 

[Leo in N E Illinois]

D. virginiana was listed as not a good match for D kaki undertock, but good for (virginiana x kaki) hybrids.

Hybrids the fruit tends to be more like American species than the Japanese.

 

[namnhi]

For edible persimmons, they use generic seed raised edible persimmons for slower growing edible cultivars, and Diospyros lotus for faster growing cultivars. Saw photos of weird wide diameter scions on narrow diameter root stock demonstrating why one choice was made over another. Don't have the article in my phone.

I think princess persimmons should only be grafted to same species as their growth rate is quite different than D lotus or D kaki.

Thanks Leo. I have a few males of the same specie that I can use to graft. Definitely want to keep some of the male branches as pollinator.
Again thanks for your expertise.