Koroneiki olive

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ok i got an olive. its a Koroneiki it currently has olives on it but there wrinkley should i just remove them for now to put more energy to the tree?
 
Wrinkly, I would try a steam iron on them. ;)
What is a Koroneiki olive? I assume its some some of asian olive tree. I would love to see a picture of it. I have never had an olive but I have read where its rare to see them with the fruits on in Bonsai culture, I do not know if they remove them or if its just rare for them to fruit when kept in training. Post some pics if you get a chance!

ed
 
Wrinkly, I would try a steam iron on them. ;)
What is a Koroneiki olive? I assume its some some of asian olive tree. I would love to see a picture of it. I have never had an olive but I have read where its rare to see them with the fruits on in Bonsai culture, I do not know if they remove them or if its just rare for them to fruit when kept in training. Post some pics if you get a chance!

ed

its a greek olive. and that type grows fruit at small sizes and young will post pics tomorrow
 
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Great, I will look forward to seeing them. LOL I would have thought Koroneiki was Japanese, looks like Suzuki, and Satsuki. I would have never guessed Greek.

ed
 
Thanks for the pics. Its hard to tell but it looks almost like the leaves are wilted in the second picture, I wonder if it dried out more than it should have?

ed
 
very cool! Put some bends into that trunk once it acclimates to your environment before it gets any thicker. I would love to know if it continues fruiting for you in the years to come
 
Thanks for the pics. Its hard to tell but it looks almost like the leaves are wilted in the second picture, I wonder if it dried out more than it should have?

ed

the leaves arnt wilted its just how it was packed the likes were pressed against the side so there bent
 
The olives are pretty well spent so I don't think they are taking away any energy from the tree. There is one bend already I would exaggerate that one a little more and then model the rest of the trunk and branches off of that first section of trunk. I imagine you will be putting several more bends into the trunk itself. Dig down in the soil a little bit to see where the roots start radiating out and measure from there to your first bend. Use this measurement to determine the distance between the first bend and the second bend making the distance a little less than from the roots to the first bend. careful not to crack the trunk as olives heal poorly as their cambium is super thin. After the wire starts cutting in about half the thickness of the wire I would remove and consider cutting back some of the upper foliage which will promote back budding to occur. Do you see all of those bumps on the trunk? That is where buds will break in the future. Not sure if I would trim or style now other than the trunk and maybe 1 or 2 primary branches
 
The olives are pretty well spent so I don't think they are taking away any energy from the tree. There is one bend already I would exaggerate that one a little more and then model the rest of the trunk and branches off of that first section of trunk. I imagine you will be putting several more bends into the trunk itself. Dig down in the soil a little bit to see where the roots start radiating out and measure from there to your first bend. Use this measurement to determine the distance between the first bend and the second bend making the distance a little less than from the roots to the first bend. careful not to crack the trunk as olives heal poorly as their cambium is super thin. After the wire starts cutting in about half the thickness of the wire I would remove and consider cutting back some of the upper foliage which will promote back budding to occur. Do you see all of those bumps on the trunk? That is where buds will break in the future. Not sure if I would trim or style now other than the trunk and maybe 1 or 2 primary branches

the roots are right under the surface of the soil. i know i potted it. and thats not realy a bent its a bumped area from a old branch that was cut off. im planning on letting it grow in a regular pot for a while to thicken the trunk.
 
Ok easier than if it's not a bend because it was kind if low. Put atleast one bend 1.5"-2" up the trunk and maybe another and 1"-1.5" above that.
 
Not curves they need to be bends. More dramatic. You can always grow it out and chop it once it gets thicker if you aren't comfortable bending it
 
Darkwaterdevil,

If I am understanding you correctly, this plant just arrived and was potted? If so, I don't think you should be in a hurry to wire this tree. I would concentrate on making sure the tree survives the potting and winter first. If you are worried about the health of the tree, removing the olives would be fine and might lessen any stress the plant may be experiencing.

Regards,
Martin
 
very cool! Put some bends into that trunk once it acclimates to your environment before it gets any thicker. I would love to know if it continues fruiting for you in the years to come

Just to remind you this was my oriGinal advice
 
like i said im not planning on doing anything for a while just asking about removing the olives. he was just giving suggestions for the future
 
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