Lakeslab “Penjing”

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This is were I will document my “penjing” work pertaining to “lake slabs” as the planting... media?.. ;)

Thank you, @Japonicus
,also, for loading the chambers of obsessive and compulsive thoughts and giving me a “direction” to “fire”.. :) I reeeeally enjoy these penjing plantings/nurse logs/ect. (I am beginning to discover)

Let’s just get right to it.
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Saike is a Japanese term for tray landscape.
Penjing is specifically Chinese.
Landscape on a rock, or a rock landscape is perfectly acceptable and does not imply a specific artistic sensibility.

Penjing is a very deep topic, as deep as "Bonsai" with a history that is a thousand years older than bonsai. It has several schools and each has a unique, and complete aesthetic. Worthy a deep dive, for the brave.

Call it a "rock landscape" and those who have taken the "deep dive" into the Penjing universe will not be offended.

I like what you have done, and will be interested in what it will look like in a couple years.
 

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Saike is a Japanese term for tray landscape.
Penjing is specifically Chinese.
Landscape on a rock, or a rock landscape is perfectly acceptable and does not imply a specific artistic sensibility.

Penjing is a very deep topic, as deep as "Bonsai" with a history that is a thousand years older than bonsai. It has several schools and each has a unique, and complete aesthetic. Worthy a deep dive, for the brave.

Call it a "rock landscape" and those who have taken the "deep dive" into the Penjing universe will not be offended.

I like what you have done, and will be interested in what it will look like in a couple years.

Yes sir! I Enjoy the distinctions.. even WITHIN penzhi, penzai, and penjing. The different doctrinal schools of practice relating to certain areas/provinces of China and using various artistic forms from the other modern Chinese art at the time...

This one will hold water.. making it a shanshui, but only SOMEWHAT :) ... the actual representations of “classic X-dynasty” painting ISN’T represented.
I had termed it more “penjing” just because (In addition to the water element) It contains the tree, small plants, rocks and that “dwelling-shaped” rock.. No figures though.

Closest to Jingzhi... without the figures.. but I’ll make some.... maaaaaybe.

I actually knew NOTHING of the JAPANESE term.

🤓🤓🤓
 

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And thank you.

To avoid possible “feather-ruffling”.. i shall avoid “strict“ terminology If one or more parts of the equation are missing/altered. 😁😁😁

You are right. It just seems easier.

“TinyTree” landscape planting on a lake slab... 🤓
 

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That is clay! :)
Sorry for the short answer! @Mara of dragon clan I was preoccupied.
I’ve been experimenting here, and in my “Animaniacs say:” thread with different clay compositions for my base “soil” level.. some of the nurse logs/rock planting composites i’ve used are: Clay, Clay/sawdust(decomposed and/or from mycelial impregnated log), Clay/sawdust(fresh), Clay/wood ash (mixed), Clay/Carbon(partially burned hardwood pulverized, Clay/soil, Clay/sand. ect.ect.. (The sawdust was more “nurse log specific.) :)

THAT’S what the goop is.

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Water/rock/plant planting on a “mo-frackin“ lake slab 2.

This is “in progress”... I plan on letting what I’m placed in motion acclimate for a few days before continuing.

There’s a Forget-me not in the back left. (Once it is more stable I will be attempting to “keep it short”.)

A spreading goldcress, i thiiink. (Could be wrong) in the upper right.

A short(er) growing clump-style long-grass. (Same thing, will be maintained shorter once “comfortable”.)

Beach sand glued into the “pans” or dishes.

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(Formulating a plot) (Brainstorm warning)

Accent/tree IN lake rock. (Depending on plant, MAY have a water component)

Just “thinking out loud” and kind of wanted to see these pictures laid out next to each other.
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I have a question....

Let me have the commissioner send up the “Leo Signal” ( @Leo in N E Illinois )

If, in the above hypothetical rock planting, I WAS to “go” the Rosa Multiflora cutting“ direction (1st pic), would the larger sub-terra growth characteristic of the rosas root system “bulge out” and disturb my planting...um.. “hole” more-so/quicker than other species?
Or would it be fairly the same considering this size of “planting hole” would have to be repotted on a fairly strict schedule?
Or do rosa CUTTINGS develop roots differently?

🤓

I guess I had several questions.
 

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When turning a rose into bonsai, we tend to use the subterranean trunk / tap root - as an extension of the trunk, So the underground trunk would be exposed and used as if it were trunk. In a few years the formerly underground portion will develop a bark that matches the above ground bark. The finer roots of multiflora rose grow pretty much like any other member of the rose family. They develop quick, but not anything too unreasonable. As fine roots develop, the root mass may lift the rosa trunk up, but this may actually look cool. So I would just go with the rose and not worry about it. I would never put any bonsai on a strict repotting schedule. Repot only if the tree needs it, or if one of the short list of reasons to repot come up. Either you repot because there is a horticultural problem. Or you repot because there is an aesthetic problem. In either case, you would not want to repot more often than once every 3 years or so. When you repot a rock slab planting, you end up disturbing everything, so if you can let it go for 10 years at a stretch, that would be good. If you repot, it takes 2 or 3 years to get everything to settle back in.
 

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Thank you!

This is how my OTHER specimen (cutting donor) is.. what WAS root.. is now base. :) I was just unsure of how this similar base would grow in the cutting scenario (so thank you :) )... and with this particular planting, long, slender.. with sharper visual angles is what I desire...The rose was the specimen that prompted the hypothetical “fashion show”

(about repotting) Thank you! ...i will take this to heart. And also reserve that specific “planting hole” for one plant.. and maybe a shallow-rooted moss.. accents AROUND.. but not sharing the hole.
 

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Lake slab “stonescape” planting 3..

I will be posting the rest as it happens. I have to let this layer “harden” a bit before continuing “work”...

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(((Update))) Stonescape 2

Not only is this planting “performing” well, due to drainage and this soil mixture/depth of “earth level”

Buuut.. it’s just ALL WRONG..

It’s design is VERY sub-par... I’m ending it’s career as a planting. :) :) :)
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Buh-Bye, movin’ on. 🤣
 
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