Tidal Bonsai
Omono
Any other nuts going to the literati class at Natures Way this weekend? Can’t wait to pick out my collected material that comes with the class!
Could we have some before and after pictures? Literati looks so easy but in truth it is very difficult to do correctly for a beginner like me.
Could we have some before and after pictures? Literati looks so easy but in truth it is very difficult to do correctly for a beginner like me.
May I suggest you research into putting some bends in the trunk. Think rebar, blocks of wood as spacers, jacks and guy wires.
Thank you for the explanation, makes perfect sense to me now.The reason that the top work was done first is that those were the most severe bends in the design, with the highest probability of failure. The trunk bends are going to exaggerate the movement that is already there (unlike the top bends, where the trunk and branches were twisted into a ball).
Pitch pines are very flexible and durable, I have 100% confidence that none of this work will create any issues.
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.Literati .......... needs to truly express something from the artist! Jim told us that in the past, only Japanese Masters were allowed to make a tree in this style, because only they could evoke something this special from a tree in a container
Absolutely! I brought a pitch pine from home to work on, and there is collected material provided for the class (it’s a 9:30-4:30 class tomorrow). When I saw the class material, we will get to draw straws for medium size ponderosa pine, limber pine, lodge pole pine, and some spruce! I can’t wait to get there tonight and see them up close!!!
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Completely the reverse. The literati should not express anything from an artist. That's why they are so difficult and next to impossible to ''create''. Literati just either happens by accident in the pot or naturally in nature. If you can see human work on the tree, it is a fake. if literati is designed from the start it will most probably fail.
Don't get me wrong, there's no harm in trying and I don't presume to know what to do but I think I know enough that you cannot design it. It is quite possible that a tree designed as a literati could become one over the years if neglected for long enough or given to an novice who does not wire it or feed it much and just clips in when he might think of it and some of the lower branches die back and the whole thing takes on a desperate look to it. Maybe then it might begin to look like/be a literati. But If we sit down with material and decide we are going to create one we are just kidding ourselves or perhaps do not understand what it means.
The closest thing to a literati I have seen is this tree. I'm sure there are many others out there. (most of the literati examples proclaimed as literati in the magazines and albums are obviously fakes). When most people approach the tree with wire thinking they know where the branch should be they ususaly fail. Wire is the natural enemy of literati and so is the desire and vision of the ''artist''.
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Interesting to me that I don't see this tree as literati. More as a ancient character tree..
Completely the reverse. The literati should not express anything from an artist. That's why they are so difficult and next to impossible to ''create''. Literati just either happens by accident in the pot or naturally in nature. If you can see human work on the tree, it is a fake. if literati is designed from the start it will most probably fail.
Don't get me wrong, there's no harm in trying and I don't presume to know what to do but I think I know enough that you cannot design it. It is quite possible that a tree designed as a literati could become one over the years if neglected for long enough or given to an novice who does not wire it or feed it much and just clips in when he might think of it and some of the lower branches die back and the whole thing takes on a desperate look to it. Maybe then it might begin to look like/be a literati. But If we sit down with material and decide we are going to create one we are just kidding ourselves or perhaps do not understand what it means.
The closest thing to a literati I have seen is this tree. I'm sure there are many others out there. (most of the literati examples proclaimed as literati in the magazines and albums are obviously fakes). When most people approach the tree with wire thinking they know where the branch should be they ususaly fail. Wire is the natural enemy of literati and so is the desire and vision of the ''artist''.
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