Looking for Amur Maple

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Where can I purchase one of these? I did find one seller on Ebay, but he won't ship live plants to California. Any online dealers that will ship to CA?
 
You're going to have problems getting plants shipped into California - so many restrictions that out-of-state vendors often just choose not to do it. In your neck of the woods you could try Cindy Reed at Kuma Bonsai (http://www.kumabonsainursery.com/index.html). If she doesn't have them, she'll know who has what locally.

Brian
 
Try Brent Walston at Evergreen Gardenworks...he's already in CA and may be able to find something to suit your needs.

Out of curiosity, why an Amur maple? Most times, Amur maple is a (not great) alternative for those who can't grow trident maples in their climate. Tridents are far better suited to bonsai training, and grow so much faster. Unless you just love Amurs for some reason, and must have one as bonsai (which is a perfectly acceptable reason), you might consider going with tridents instead.
 
For variety I guess. I already have a couple of tridents. Thanks for your help! :)
 
Jim Gremel had a few last time I checked. You can google his contact information, he's in NorCal but would probably ship them to you. He deals mostly in high end material but might have a few cheaper too. What size and price are you looking for? I have a few that I wouldn't mind parting with but they're young. PM me if you're interested.
 
Around here you can find them at menards or lowes
 
I would buy a standard Japanese maple before an Amur. They are very plentiful around here, but not the best material for bonsai.
 
I was told that Amur maples can drop branches suddenly without any apparent reason, but I think they're a great species to experiment on. I got one for $5 at a club auction that would've easily sold for $50 elsewhere.

For what it's worth, I've seen a couple beautifully done Amur maple bonsai...so something good is definitely attainable. I would contact Eric and see what he's got if I were you. ;)
 
Can you show a picture of a good amur maple bonsai ? I have never ever seen a really good one, the branches are stiff looking and don't ramify well. I also have a huge (8-9" trunk) stump of one if anybody is interested ....
 
I was told that Amur maples can drop branches suddenly without any apparent reason, but I think they're a great species to experiment on. I got one for $5 at a club auction that would've easily sold for $50 elsewhere.

For what it's worth, I've seen a couple beautifully done Amur maple bonsai...so something good is definitely attainable. I would contact Eric and see what he's got if I were you. ;)

the branch drop thing is not the case (that is only my experience) ... I have 3 amur as bonsai .... from shohin to large size ... none of them have ever acted this way.... they do indeed make great bonsai but take some figuring out as they won't react like Acer P or any other maple you are used to. They are insanely apically dominant and can be a pain to manage interior growth .... the reward is a mass of early foliage (they are the first maples to leaf out) and an early fall show of deep reds with some oranges and yellows thrown in for fun...
 
Amur doesn't drop branches, but it does suffer very heavy die back at major pruning sites. However, it quickly recovers. It is an extremely tough tree that can take deep winter cold and hot summers. I've had a few for more than 15 years now. They can be awkward in branching and lack the fine twigging tridents cna produce, however, they are also more winter hardy, and can attain a look of their own that is not "tridentlike" but graceful in its own right.

They are apically dominant, for sure, tops have to be cut back very hard to produce ramification. They also have to ben thinned more regularly than Japanese and trident maples. Their fall color is far superior to trident maples too.
 
Amur doesn't drop branches, but it does suffer very heavy die back at major pruning sites. However, it quickly recovers. It is an extremely tough tree that can take deep winter cold and hot summers. I've had a few for more than 15 years now. They can be awkward in branching and lack the fine twigging tridents cna produce, however, they are also more winter hardy, and can attain a look of their own that is not "tridentlike" but graceful in its own right.

They are apically dominant, for sure, tops have to be cut back very hard to produce ramification. They also have to ben thinned more regularly than Japanese and trident maples. Their fall color is far superior to trident maples too.

Do you know if Amur maples can be defoliated to induce smaller leaf size and finer branching?
 
They can, but branching doesn't get much better. It could even get worse, as amur tend to throw new growth from everwhere, not just branches, but down the trunk, from exposed roots, from big knots, etc. You have to watch carefully where new growth breaks and remove unwanted shoots immediately when they show up.
 
Funny, where I am at the fall color on Amur is inconsistent, whereas the trident fall color is almost always very good.
 
Funny, I have the opposite. My amurs tend to be more colorful than my tridents. Don't know why that is though.
 
Do you know if Amur maples can be defoliated to induce smaller leaf size and finer branching?

Leaves reduce well... my shohin has leaves abotu the size of my pinky nail after defoliation .... I defoliate all of them at least once a year .... ( other peoples experiences will differ ) .... I get decent reduction and ramification .... mostly at branch ends.... and rockm stated ... heavy cut sites will die back some ...

my fall color is always superior to tridents which are very inconsistent .... I'm sure its a very environmental issue ....
 
Sorry, take a look at that tree without leaves. Still has the same problems most Amur bonsai have. I like the tree, but wonder how good they can really be for bonsai.
 
Well, gee you've heard several people say they make good to excellent bonsai. I've been more than happy with the Amurs I've kept for 15 years. They are among my favorites since they're hardy, extremely vigorous and forgiving. They also work into nice bonsai, forest or specimen. No, they're not Tridents or Japanese maples, but then those aren't amurs. Try leaving a trident or a Japanese maple out on the benches in -5 F February weather and see it if leafs out the next spring:D. Amur can...and look good doing it.
 
Well, show me a picture. Lots of trees are hardy and forgiving, I would just like to see a very good one. Thanks.
 
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