Monlep Juniper

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I see two of these in 1 gallon pots at the nursery on sale. Do these work as bonsai? They have an abundance of very nice green, soft foliage. Thanks for help.
 

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Hey August!
It’s worth a try…chinensis is shimpaku (someone correct me please, if this not the case). Although maybe not a sought out variety.
 
Shimpaku is chinensis, chinensis is not necessarily shimpaku. Shimpaku is just the word the Japanese use to describe their own specific varieties of chinensis such as Itoigawa and Kishu.
 
Shimpaku is chinensis, chinensis is not necessarily shimpaku. Shimpaku is just the word the Japanese use to describe their own specific varieties of chinensis such as Itoigawa and Kishu.

So "shimpaku" refers to any Japanese Chinese juniper? I guess "Japanese Chinese juniper" is a confusing mouthful to say, so it makes sense to use the Japanese word for Chinese junipers when referring to Japanese Chinese junipers.
 
So "shimpaku" refers to any Japanese Chinese juniper? I guess "Japanese Chinese juniper" is a confusing mouthful to say, so it makes sense to use the Japanese word for Chinese junipers when referring to Japanese Chinese junipers.
Bjorn breaks it down pretty well…

 
See the resources part of this forum for an oveview of the Juniper species and everything should be clear.

Juniperus chinensis - Chinese Juniper. Native range is Japan, Korea, China, and Mongolia.
  • Juniperus chinensis subsp. sargentii- Sargent's Juniper; Shimpaku
    • Juniperus chinensis subsp. sargentii var. Itoigawa

    • Juniperus chinensis subsp. sargentii var. Kishu
Link: https://www.bonsainut.com/resources/juniper-species-varieties-and-cultivars.26/
 
See the resources part of this forum for an oveview of the Juniper species and everything should be clear.

Juniperus chinensis - Chinese Juniper. Native range is Japan, Korea, China, and Mongolia.
  • Juniperus chinensis subsp. sargentii- Sargent's Juniper; Shimpaku
    • Juniperus chinensis subsp. sargentii var. Itoigawa

    • Juniperus chinensis subsp. sargentii var. Kishu
Link: https://www.bonsainut.com/resources/juniper-species-varieties-and-cultivars.26/

I had always been under the impression that "shimpaku" referred to a certain group of Japanese cultivars of Chinese Juniper, but I hadn't realized how broadly the term could be applied.
 
August. I’ve never heard of monlep variety of chinensis. Probably because there is a ton of different types that have been cultivated by nurseries over the decades.

What’s the foliage look like right now? How about the trunk? Does it have scale or needle foliage? If it’s scale is it all mature or is there some juvenile bits? Does the foliage hold itself up or is it all droopy?

Unless someone has posted their results online you won’t know how it responds to bonsai techniques unless you dive in!
 

From this pic it looks a lot like the sea green variety found at most big box stores. The growth extensions I’m seeing in the pic would suggest it doesn’t work well as bonsai, at least not at a small scale. Now if the trunk was sizable enough you may be able to yield some decent results.

Again though, no telling unless you’re wanting to give it a try!
 
Ya, it doesn't sound like this one is at all well known in the bonsai world. If I'm going to spend time, learn something, and have a decent bonsai when I get done, I maybe should stick with a known variety of juniper. Where I live, there is never any of the well known junipers for sale. Thanks for input all of you folks. I always appreciate the help.
 
It seems that the monlep is analogous to mint julep, a chinensis x sabina hybrid, AKA Pfitzer or Media. The mint julep is a little greener and can turn a nice shade of brown or purple in winter.
Their growth is somewhat coarse compared to regular chinensis, and they're toxic like sabina. But they can be turned into bonsai and I've found the mint julep cultivar to be one of the most forgiving junipers I've owned. I'm not saying they're hard to kill, but you can saw them in half in the dead of winter and both halves will come out unharmed.
 
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