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Great picture Brian. I'll have to take a look at my Azalea and see if I can tell the difference.
 

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I was at a local bonsai club meeting the other day and someone told my I had "bad moss" on my tree. They said I should remove it and get some "Good moss", but they couldn't tell me the difference.

So, what's the difference?
"Bad moss" has an aggressive root system...but the roots run 3/4" deep...
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A good way to know the difference between "good moss" and "bad moss" like the types in @Brian Van Fleet 's picture is by checking for roots. Mosses do not grow roots so if yours has root then it's not a moss at all. The "bad moss" above is some type of aggressive ground cover plant. They sell it in places like Lowes.
 

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I had that "bad moss" growing in my 2 now dead picea abies.

It looks cool. But I didn't think it was moss.

I'm moss binging right now.
I smell like buttermilk.

Sorce
 

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I had that "bad moss" growing in my 2 now dead picea abies.

It looks cool. But I didn't think it was moss.

I'm moss binging right now.
I smell like buttermilk.

Sorce

I'm not sure what the buttermilk is suppose to do for the moss but if you do use it your gonna have to be real careful and look out for mold. Your link even touches on buttermilk at the end.

That link was great by the way. Thank you. That information about the two types and their growth patterns is exactly the information I was missing. Now i know exactly what I'm doing wrong.
 

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Hey remember this...?

I'm gonna take this poor little elm seedling home.20160809_091754.jpg

Hey @Adair M
Don't know if you seen the other pictures in the tea house...but look!

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( )!

That is a silent vroom!

Sorce
 

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Yep! Pretty quiet! And lots of pep! Men is kinda old. The new ones are scary quick!
 

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You are right about the bad ''Moss'' Its a real pest- every fragment seems to grow here- its actually not moss at all but Pearlwort ( Arenaria spp) a rampant ground hugging plant with tiny white flowers.
My Grandad from bonny Scotland used to store his worms in tubs of it for trout fishing!!
 

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Any thoughts on "over wintering" Moss?
I have some in a shallow "forest" type pot.
I was planning on just bringing this into my unheated garage, but would like to hear if anyone has any tips or recommendations.
 

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"Bad moss" has an aggressive root system. Around here, it's this stuff; some call it Irish Moss. Don't know what it is, but the roots run 3/4" deep, it is coarse, and difficult to get rid of.
"Good moss" stays on top of the soil and has effectively no root system. It's velvety and low-growing.
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It's the silvery moss at the top of the blue circle that I look for but seldom find.
 

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I feel for you folks on this subject....lucky for us, our temperate rain forest climate in the Pacific Northwest the favourable moss grows significantly. (We get about 60" a year).
From my yamadori collection I take the moss (which includes many different types) and add to my moss garden...a small shaded spot. This time of year it is removed from my pots (doesn't seem to mind my fertilizer regime) and added to the moss patch.
I do get the Irish moss and have to be diligent
Cheers G
 

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over wintering"

Mine grew great under my tropical fluorescents.

You should be able to do anything with it, and it will come back in when conditions are favorable again.

Sorce
 

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??? This sounds ominous, I hope it's just a joke?

I see what you mean! I just meant at my age it would most likely be the last bike/ride I would consider purchasing ;)

Grimmy
 

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Always wanted a bike, bobber. Can't afford it though :(

This thread got me worried. Then I went outside to see if there's roots under the carpet and there ain't none luckily.

What's the lanky growth in the middle? Is it safe to keep? And are the greens ON the root OK, or should I gently brush it off?
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I just pulled the moss off my Scots that I repotted this year. What a pain.
Some of the trees roots had grown into the moss. I carefully reburied the few that I had to get out of there and added more soil on top.
The desired effect happened, the tree grew lots of roots.
 

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And are the greens ON the root OK, or should I gently brush it off?

Honest I would remove all the moss from the tree and roots. I never let it attach itself to a tree/plant as it tends to stain and/or damage it. After cleaning I would also suggest covering the roots for the winter with fresh substrate. ;)
Moss is for show and the tradition of using it at all dates way back in Japan where having "dirt" in your residence is unacceptable. When plants were brought in for the enjoyment/viewing of the owner or guests the soil was completely covered with moss while it was indoors...

Grimmy
 

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Ah thanks Grimmy!

Will clean that up today before it rains again. And add some orchid mix and potting soil on the top. I will keep the moss on a tray to see if I can grow them.

I really like the Moss in there but this tree need more function over form right now. Hopefully next spring transplant to the ground will make it happy.
 
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