Mugo Pine No.1

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ok so I was gifted this Mugo pine by my teacher as a thank you for the work I’ve been putting in since winter at the studio ... 🙏🏻.... I only structurally wired and lightly pruned only 20% foliage to the general direction I’m leaning toward. The copper wire was 10 gauge just on some heavy bends. I also cut branches where there was 3 or more shoots coming from a internode to keep the decent taper...
-A bit sappy-
The remaining buds I did not touch with a thousand foot pole since they will be left to grow in the summer. Once those elongate I’ll wire in fall and do some deadwood work on the right side of the treee.
I think it has some good potential , I’m excited to see what direction this tree takes me. It’s my first real challenging piece of material.. I’ll receive some assistance repotting this next year once I can handle Mugo’s better , and to promote some ramification on the lower trunk where I’m really putting my money on as the final design... this is a learning experience for me.
the long branch that is guy wired , I know it may be stupid, but if I can get this bend to stick, I may use some raffia this fall to make a heavier more acute bend... or completely cut it off, it can serve as a sacrifice branch but if I cut it ... it’ll leave a bit scar since the trunk is old gnarly and cracked already.
im stoked to put this in a pot next spring.. or next summer depending how it goes and if it’s strong enough.
The deadwood work I’m also chomping at the bits for fall to get here.. I have monster carbide burs and a small Jin knife .. then do some ink/ lime sulfur stain.
so as a question , what direction do you think this best.. Repotting next year and then deadwood.. or deadwood work / finishing wire this fall depending on the growth and repot in late winter /spring keep in the greenhouse. It’s going to have a big rootball so I’ll have to use a big deep pot , but the angle is where I want it.

. I won’t fertilize till candle sheaths harden off.. I’m going with a organic 10-10-10 cake , then fish emulsion in fall.

also , be honest , it’s my first Mugo ... I know it’s shitty but hey I’m learning and just appreciate the gift my teacher gave me.
 

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Nice mugo. Sounds like a good plan. Next time you take photos, please use a neutral background, it is difficult to make sense of what you have. Also the camera lens should be roughly level with the planned rim of the future pot and pulled back enough to see the whole tree. But, looks like in time this will be a nice twisted up little tree.
 

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Update , I removed the taller branches , that were impeding on design. I like the thickness of the trunk already. It’s setting new buds all over.
 

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Looking good. I can see why you cut that big branch off. It was competing with everything else. It looked like it was a windswept design but it didn't seem clearly defined.
I like the changes and it looks like the tree is healthy. What is the next step? You tilted it in one shot, are you thinking semi-cascade?
 

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Looking good. I can see why you cut that big branch off. It was competing with everything else. It looked like it was a windswept design but it didn't seem clearly defined.
I like the changes and it looks like the tree is healthy. What is the next step? You tilted it in one shot, are you thinking semi-cascade?
No more of a slanted upright, perhaps cascade. I’m going to use the deadwood on the right side and carve that out.
 

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The 'U' shaped branch at the top really bothers me. It looks very unnatural. I would have bent the longer thicker one lower and bent that one parallel but higher to look like a layering effect with the branches. Lower branches are typically longer than higher branches
 

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The 'U' shaped branch at the top really bothers me. It looks very unnatural. I would have bent the longer thicker one lower and bent that one parallel but higher to look like a layering effect with the branches. Lower branches are typically longer than higher branches
I cut that off
 

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Better pic
This one has possibilities. I would let it grow to stabilize its new form until it produces normal candles and a pattern of growth. As it is now it looks more like a Ponderosa Pine or one of the long needled Pines you encounter in Virginia down through the Carolinas, it does not look like a Mugo. (Loblolly?)
 

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This one has possibilities. I would let it grow to stabilize its new form until it produces normal candles and a pattern of growth. As it is now it looks more like a Ponderosa Pine or one of the long needled Pines you encounter in Virginia down through the Carolinas, it does not look like a Mugo. (Loblolly?)
Yes! I was hoping you’d comment. I fertilized the hell out of this pine since I cut off alot of foliage in spring because what it had before wasn’t working. I was told it was a Mugo. The needles are very long. Here is the candles , perhaps you’re right though that it isn’t.
 

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This one has possibilities. I would let it grow to stabilize its new form until it produces normal candles and a pattern of growth. As it is now it looks more like a Ponderosa Pine or one of the long needled Pines you encounter in Virginia down through the Carolinas, it does not look like a Mugo. (Loblolly?)
You know what Vance… I looked and compared to the back biding of my scots and back budding of this pine, and I think it’s a Scots now.
 

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You know what Vance… I looked and compared to the back biding of my scots and back budding of this pine, and I think it’s a Scots now.
It's possible, Scotts and Mugos are cousins and very easy to confuse. Generally a Scots Pine will have a partially exfoliating bark and a redish under bark. The buds are more pointy where the Mugo is more rounded.
 

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Awesome tree!

Glad Vance is here..

Buuut as I was looking at the first couple pictures, I was all, “That mugo has flatter needles like my Scots!”...

....looks like you got it figured out!!

🤪
 

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This one has possibilities. I would let it grow to stabilize its new form until it produces normal candles and a pattern of growth. As it is now it looks more like a Ponderosa Pine or one of the long needled Pines you encounter in Virginia down through the Carolinas, it does not look like a Mugo. (Loblolly?)
What possibilities do you see … I see in future raffia the top section and twist around or bend to shorten that internode length. Developed as a informal upright with carved jins at the bottom.
 

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This is not your thread. Please go away , you’re the same troll as before. Make your own thread
I agree that his/her question deserves its own thread but I don't see intentional trolling. Perhaps blocking this user might be a more effective solution.
 

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I agree that his/her question deserves its own thread but I don't see intentional trolling. Perhaps blocking this user might be a more effective solution.
Oh no.. not intentional trolling here and NOW...

But the same doofus that yelled at everyone from 4 accounts YESTERDAY... and threatened MANY of our Regulars with Lawsuits... OBVIOUS non-productive “gum-flapping” but irritating, underhanded, lazy and actually just plain NOT intelligence.. but ACTUALLY truly angered some and crossed lines...

Also, I see your NEW accounts today, buttplug....All of them...

Some shit got switched around last night... I am properly “set-up” to deal with Jabronies like you.

Want to do this again, today??

Nothing would make me happier than making you look like the Dysmorphic, un-learned, pre-pubescent little hooligan you are.

You could just go somewhere where you are appreciated... because it will never be here.

Your MOTHER appreciates you WAY too much.. way too much praise.

How’s your relationship with your Dad, Oedipus?

Get lost, runt...

(Jackhammer.. these statements are NOT directed at you.. just to be clear)
 

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What possibilities do you see … I see in future raffia the top section and twist around or bend to shorten that internode length. Developed as a informal upright with carved jins at the bottom.
If you cannot shorten internode length through pinching techniques trying to do so by the use of rafia and wire will ultimately fail.
 
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