Mike Hennigan
Chumono
I live not too far from fingerlakes national forest and there is a wealth of fantastic deciduous material out there from hawthorn and apple to hornbeam and service berry among others. I’ve been thinking about trying to obtain permits to collect some material there for the last couple years and finally went up to the ranger station earlier this week to inquire.
I talked to the guy at the front desk and told him i’d be interested in collecting a few small trees, specifically hawthorn, apple, and hornbeam. I brought up form FS-2400-1 as possibly the correct form I would need (forest products removal permit). He was not sure how to answer my question, understandably, it’s not something he hears everyday. He went and grabbed another guy who might know, he was also confused but suggested that a “Special Use Permit” may be more appropriate for my request.
They told me the “forest product removal” permits have to be based on data that they collect to make sure resources are harvested responsibly or something like that. And as nobody gives a crap about hawthorns enough to collect data on them (not useful for timber etc.) they weren’t sure if they would be able to issue a permit that way.
Though special use permits sound like they may be more geared toward if I was collecting the trees to sell them?
Anyways, they took my contact info and said they would pass it along to the correct person at the office in Vermont that actually manages the forest (I was just at the ranger station). If I don’t hear from that office I will contact them and see what they have to say.
Does anyone have any advice for obtaining these types of permits in the northeast? How do I know if I’m talking to the right people? How do I make sure that any permit application I fill out gets to the right person?
Gotta love bureaucracy!
I talked to the guy at the front desk and told him i’d be interested in collecting a few small trees, specifically hawthorn, apple, and hornbeam. I brought up form FS-2400-1 as possibly the correct form I would need (forest products removal permit). He was not sure how to answer my question, understandably, it’s not something he hears everyday. He went and grabbed another guy who might know, he was also confused but suggested that a “Special Use Permit” may be more appropriate for my request.
They told me the “forest product removal” permits have to be based on data that they collect to make sure resources are harvested responsibly or something like that. And as nobody gives a crap about hawthorns enough to collect data on them (not useful for timber etc.) they weren’t sure if they would be able to issue a permit that way.
Though special use permits sound like they may be more geared toward if I was collecting the trees to sell them?
Anyways, they took my contact info and said they would pass it along to the correct person at the office in Vermont that actually manages the forest (I was just at the ranger station). If I don’t hear from that office I will contact them and see what they have to say.
Does anyone have any advice for obtaining these types of permits in the northeast? How do I know if I’m talking to the right people? How do I make sure that any permit application I fill out gets to the right person?
Gotta love bureaucracy!