Piece of junk

[amcoffeegirl]

It is amazing to me how Walter Paul can take a piece of junk nothing stump and turn it into a work of art. How can every tree he touches turn out amazing? He is truly gifted.

http://walter-pall-bonsai.blogspot.com/2013/10/field-maple.html?m=1

 

[edprocoat]

It is amazing to me how Walter Paul can take a piece of junk nothing stump and turn it into a work of art. How can every tree he touches turn out amazing? He is truly gifted.

http://walter-pall-bonsai.blogspot.com/2013/10/field-maple.html?m=1

You said it !

This validates Cypress' point from another thread about those who can take so called "junk" and through careful planning, vision and talent, turn out some incredible stuff. Sure its easier to start out buying a tree grown to be Bonsai, but its also possible to create something beautiful from less than desirable material. Personally I think that takes more talent, wish I had that going for me !

ed

 

[mcpesq817]

Not to take anything away from his work, but that's actually quite a nice stump - the nebari and bark are fantastic on it.

 

[october]

Walter is incredibly talented. However, the material is not necessarilly junk. You just have to see the bonsai within the tree and pick what you think are the best options. Which Wallter has clearly done. Also, there is another school of approach, thats seems like it's becoming forgotten about. That is to actually create what is not there. Not that reducing a tree to find the bonsai is not difficult. However, creating something from nothing over a period of many years can be difficult and an exercise in patience.

I submit this link. It is a perfect example of what I am talking about.

Rob

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t12523-progression-of-a-neea-buxifolia-in-9-years

 

[armetisius]

All I have to say is this:
If this is a piece of junk, I may have to take up dumpster diving.

 

[edprocoat]

I seen WP's thread about this particular tree before, he wanted it as a larger tree but it became diseased and the top part died. I think saying this half dead from disease stump was not a piece of junk when he started with it can only happen when one looks at what it has been turned into.

Not bad looking for a "Fairy Tale Style" Bonsai...

ed

 

[amcoffeegirl]

I seen WP's thread about this particular tree before, he wanted it as a larger tree but it became diseased and the top part died. I think saying this half dead from disease stump was not a piece of junk when he started with it can only happen when one looks at what it has been turned into.

Not bad looking for a "Fairy Tale Style" Bonsai...

ed

Yes clearly I'm comparing the before and after versions of the tree and the mastery of the work and skills it took to create the image.
I just blows me away that this can be done. It's not something i would be able to easily conceptualize. I also couldn't imagine collecting anything this large. I just adore the transformation.
The piece of "junk" title was more of a gag line. Obviously it's not junk cause look what he made from it.

 

[october]

Well, I guess the link I posted in reply #4 about Master Sullistyo's near decade work to turn a nothing tree into a high end exhibition bonsai was not as impressive as Walter's cutting back a tree. Maybe the link was just not seen.

Rob

 

[cmeg1]

Took a nice appreciation for graham potters work today too.

 

[tmpgh]

No offense October, but the thread is about Walter's tree, which is why no one commented on your link. No one is saying that this is the only way to create bonsai or even the best way. The comments I read were that a good job was done with this material.

For you to minimize this work by implying that all Walter did was cut this tree back, well, you sir have missed something rather big and important.

 

[october]

No offense October, but the thread is about Walter's tree, which is why no one commented on your link. No one is saying that this is the only way to create bonsai or even the best way. The comments I read were that a good job was done with this material.

For you to minimize this work by implying that all Walter did was cut this tree back, well, you sir have missed something rather big and important.

I knew that if I posted that someone would take it the wrong way. I, in no way, meant to take away from Walter's tree. I do apologize if that is the way it came off. I think his trees are some of the best in existence and the job on this one is nothing short of incredible. I posted it because the tree was not crap to start with. However, the one in the link I provided could be an example of that.

Also, this is a bonsai site and open to discussion. If I or anyone wishes to post something that is in line with, along the lines of or provides a counter point, that is their, as well as my right to do so. Also, I noticed that someone did reply in the boxwood thread. So now others can see both Walters and Budi's tree. I will think about rewording my post.

Rob

 

[Evilman626]

No offense October, but the thread is about Walter's tree, which is why no one commented on your link. No one is saying that this is the only way to create bonsai or even the best way. The comments I read were that a good job was done with this material.

For you to minimize this work by implying that all Walter did was cut this tree back, well, you sir have missed something rather big and important.

The OP started the thread about creating masterpieces from junk. Any person reading a thread 99% percent of the time would welcome as many examples as possible.

 

[CHUCHIN]

It is amazing to me how Walter Paul can take a piece of junk nothing stump and turn it into a work of art. How can every tree he touches turn out amazing? He is truly gifted.

http://walter-pall-bonsai.blogspot.com/2013/10/field-maple.html?m=1

WP is awesome his vision is unreal!!! but this tree is not junk. Has great bones...wp was the right artist.

 

[fraser67]

Walter is incredibly talented. However, the material is not necessarilly junk. You just have to see the bonsai within the tree and pick what you think are the best options. Which Wallter has clearly done. Also, there is another school of approach, thats seems like it's becoming forgotten about. That is to actually create what is not there. Not that reducing a tree to find the bonsai is not difficult. However, creating something from nothing over a period of many years can be difficult and an exercise in patience.

I submit this link. It is a perfect example of what I am talking about.

Rob

http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/t12523-progression-of-a-neea-buxifolia-in-9-years

Hey October... Thanks for posting!! It didn't bother me that you posted this tree here...amazing transformation, and in a relatively short time. It gives me hope (and ideas) for a crappy oak that I won in a raffle last year.
Best,
Jonathan

 

[mcpesq817]

I seen WP's thread about this particular tree before, he wanted it as a larger tree but it became diseased and the top part died. I think saying this half dead from disease stump was not a piece of junk when he started with it can only happen when one looks at what it has been turned into.

Not bad looking for a "Fairy Tale Style" Bonsai...

ed

I guess I and others will just have to disagree. If you look at this picture, you can see that this stump already had great nebari, flare, bark and movement in the first foot or so of the tree. It's very hard to find a field grown stump (for purchase or to dig) that has these qualities.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4YbLLCdRs...8/GRI7c7AYY8o/s1600/2011-04-QDSC_2950DNGw.jpg


Again, not taking anything away from Walter's work, but this stump was not a piece of junk.

 

[Poink88]

You want to see junk? Look at my stumps. Difference is they are still junk LOL

Walter's tree is NOT a junk. It has all the great things from the get go. It has faults and may be difficult but far from junk, I will buy that any time.

I have been chastised here for believing that no tree (with good bonsai traits) is impossible to bonsai IF you have time. Honestly, I can throw that tree in a terminte mound and they can possibly make a greater bonsai out of it in couple of years than I can. Then I go in and work the branches.

This is junk.

 

[mcpesq817]

Dario, is that a Cedar Elm? Oak? That must have hurt getting it out of the ground

 

[jk_lewis]

How can every tree he touches turn out amazing? He is truly gifted.

Yes, he is, BUT . . . I doubt that we see "every" tree he touches.

 

[Poink88]

Dario, is that a Cedar Elm? Oak? That must have hurt getting it out of the ground

Cedar elm, that is easily 12 feet tall when I dug to save it from the dozers. It is getting along pretty well now (considering the time that passed since collection). This is the one I am experimenting on and raised the main branch growing sideways to upright (last year actually). Wasn't easy, but got done.

 

[Poink88]

Yes, he is, BUT . . . I doubt that we see "every" tree he touches.

I agree.

What most fail to see is that he has the "eye" and can spot the trees potential where others see junk. THAT is the big difference. I think he won't waste his time on a real junk.