Pines progress

[Anthony]

@Gustavo Martins,

As a thank you for the conversation you just left, visuals.

This J.b,pine was grown as shown in the Bonsai Today article.

These events did not take place.

[1] Seedling was not cut.
why - observation over 30 years showed surface roots occur naturally.
The author also states -- every 4 years roots are worked on.

[2] first 3 years in it's life, roots were not interfered with.
Why - too chicken, plus we lost one trying. supply is limited.
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[a] This is one of the seedlings that was an aggressive grower.
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Porous Earthenware pot is 28 cm wide and 15 cm deep internally.

Soil is a simple 3 parts aged compost to 7 parts 5 mm inorganic [ silica based gravel ]

Placement full sun.

Fertiliser is 1/3 strength Miracle gro lawn fertiliser - 36 N 6 K20 0 P - 3S - 0.325 Chelated Fe
Into moist soil, once a week.

The Japanese never said how much fertiliser they use. Figure of 12 N from an American Forestry
site for pines used.
What was discovered ------- flood the soil three times ------- with this pot it drips about
3 tablespoons slowly afterwards.
The pot probably absorbs some of the fertiliser, maybe it seeps back in later ?

What you are seeing, is about 6 extensions - longest 56 cm, second longest 46 cm
Going to see how many will reach 76 to 92 cm by Christmas. That will normally give an
addition to trunk width of 2.5 cm per shoot.
Will be happy if it reaches 8 cm.

Presently trunk is close to 4 cm and at the base in the soil - 6 cm

Information passed on by an unremembered Bnut - 2.5 cm per branch's
thickness can be easily healed, when cut off from the trunk.

Next stage should be branches and a repot.
Good Day
Anthony

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[hemmy]

@Gustavo Martins,

As a thank you for the conversation you just left, visuals.

This J.b,pine was grown as shown in the Bonsai Today article.

These events did not take place.

[1] Seedling was not cut.
why - observation over 30 years showed surface roots occur naturally.
The author also states -- every 4 years roots are worked on.

[2] first 3 years in it's life, roots were not interfered with.
Why - too chicken, plus we lost one trying. supply is limited.
____________________________________________________________________
[a] This is one of the seedlings that was an aggressive grower.
__________________________________________________

Porous Earthenware pot is 28 cm wide and 15 cm deep internally.

Soil is a simple 3 parts aged compost to 7 parts 5 mm inorganic [ silica based gravel ]

Placement full sun.

Fertiliser is 1/3 strength Miracle gro lawn fertiliser - 36 N 6 K20 0 P - 3S - 0.325 Chelated Fe
Into moist soil, once a week.

The Japanese never said how much fertiliser they use. Figure of 12 N from an American Forestry
site for pines used.
What was discovered ------- flood the soil three times ------- with this pot it drips about
3 tablespoons slowly afterwards.
The pot probably absorbs some of the fertiliser, maybe it seeps back in later ?

What you are seeing, is about 6 extensions - longest 56 cm, second longest 46 cm
Going to see how many will reach 76 to 92 cm by Christmas. That will normally give an
addition to trunk width of 2.5 cm per shoot.
Will be happy if it reaches 8 cm.

Presently trunk is close to 4 cm and at the base in the soil - 6 cm

Information passed on by an unremembered Bnut - 2.5 cm per branch's
thickness can be easily healed, when cut off from the trunk.

Next stage should be branches and a repot.
Good Day
Anthony

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Age? Or how many growing seasons old?

 

[Anthony]

@hemmy ,

I posted this before, and I might make a liar of myself , but maybe
5 or 6 years old.

https://www.bonsainut.com/threads/japanese-black-pine-from-seed.30349/
Good Day
Anthony

 

[Gustavo Martins]

I think the ones I showed were red pines (not the Japanese). I'll check the exact species later

 

[Anthony]

@Gustavo Martins

Gustavo,

not sure if it makes a difference. We have seed of Red also doing the same.
Of course we purchased it as J.R.pine of Amazon.

If you look at the Bonsai Today article, we have 3 pines that developed
massive bases in the soil and trunks still having to catch up.
See below.
Good Day
Anthony


Over the years the base ha become even more extreme and the
trunk is slowly catching up.

 

[EPM]

Anthony,
Which Bonsai Today article are you referring to? I've seen several on black pine. In your climate does the JBP have a dormant period?

Thanks!

 

[Anthony]

@EPM,

Bonsai Today 12, article shows two ways to grow black pines as
bonsai.

The J.b.pine seems to go dormant by shorter daylight.
So from Christmas until mid February you can cut off branches and they
bleed very little.
We also point the wounds into the breeze, at that time of the
year our winds are strong, almost constant and dry. Our Dry season.

We are working with hardwood cuttings off of seedlings that were
very aggressive, both growing and trunk thickening.
Possibly extreme softwoods even for the J.B.pine.
Good Day
Anthony