Please help with ID

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Hi all! I'm kinda stumped as to what this might be. At first I thought it might be some sort of fruit tree but they're all alternate pattern. Then I thought it might be something like a Burning Bush but the stems have no wings and serrations are larger too.

Can anyone id this?

 

[TN_Jim]

Looks like some sort of arrowwood, one of the Viburnum. Leaf morphology can vary with these if so.

 

[cbroad]

My first thought from the first picture reminded me of forsythia, but I know that's not right.

Second thought was kerria, but leaves are alternate on these and too thick and waxy for kerria.

Maybe a Viburnum?

 

[TN_Jim]

Perhaps a variety of V. rafinesquanum...? Some dentatums have that appearance, but the V. raf. looks closer if that’s it at all.

Viburnums tend to be hairy. The trichomes on stems/buds/leaves may be a means to rule them out or hone down.

@cbroad, I’m digging what you’re saying about wax-leaf...from looking at various dentatums, some look waxy some don’t. I’m wondering if more sun exposure vs. shade/understory is a factor there.

The first thing that stuck out with the leaf was not much teeth at the leaf base -Seems variable in the V. raf. too but present.

Viburnum rafinesquianum (Downy Arrowwood) | North Carolina Extension Gardener Plant Toolbox

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

I’m thinking forsythia. Here is one in my yard that you can compare it with.

 

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Thanks a bunch y'all!!

Looks like @Brian Van Fleet got this one. Leaves, stem, and buds looks exactly the same. But I did not know they produce corky type bark though. I might have to go get a pic tomorrow.

Hey BVF, Do yours have corky bark? Just curious.

 

[Forsoothe!]

Looks like Forsythia. See if the 2 year old stems are hollow.

 

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Looks like Forsythia. See if the 2 year old stems are hollow.

Hollow it is! Unfortunately the middle trunk section, and most likely right side are dead. Someone must have been hacking at this poor thing it's whole life. Its planted at worst place between sidewalk and street. When people park their car, it's right there in the way when they open the door! I'm gonna ask to try and save what's left of it. It was hacked down the middle at some point and the other side is mostly alive at least.

Now may not be optimal for transplant but I'm afraid someone's gonna punt this over the winter. At least try right?


On a side not, anyone know what this one is? I thought Sassafras; but that, it is not I don't think. There's no low branches but they do sprout along the trunk.

 

[just.wing.it]

Forsythia. Beast one.

 

[Forsoothe!]

Dwarf are better, but standard sized Forsythia are hard to train. But they are worth it every mid-April when nobody's got nothin' bloomin'. They are forgiving of abuse and hard to kill, so go to it, spare no offending branch or root and bring it down to the bare essentials of an aesthetic shape. They bloom on two year old wood and stop blooming on five or six year old wood, so expect no bloom next spring and proceed from there. See you in two years next April!

 

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Dwarf are better, but standard sized Forsythia are hard to train. But they are worth it every mid-April when nobody's got nothin' bloomin'. They are forgiving of abuse and hard to kill, so go to it, spare no offending branch or root and bring it down to the bare essentials of an aesthetic shape. They bloom on two year old wood and stop blooming on five or six year old wood, so expect no bloom next spring and proceed from there. See you in two years next April!

Thanks for the info! I'll have to track down the home owner. I'm sure they're OK with it seeing how this thing was butchered.

If I get the green light, I hope there's enough roots to sustain it over winter. My micro climate had been pretty mild the last couple years until around January or early February. Hope I get at least another month of good weather.

Fingers cross!

Oh btw can anyone id the other plant? I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing.

 

[TN_Jim]

Thanks for the info! I'll have to track down the home owner. I'm sure they're OK with it seeing how this thing was butchered.

If I get the green light, I hope there's enough roots to sustain it over winter. My micro climate had been pretty mild the last couple years until around January or early February. Hope I get at least another month of good weather.

Fingers cross!

Oh btw can anyone id the other plant? I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing.

The ground cover!!?

 

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The ground cover!!?

Oh no lol. The two pics at bottom of post #8

 

[Potawatomi13]

Leaves look like maple also opposite each other as maple is.

 

[TN_Jim]

Oh no lol. The two pics at bottom of post #8

Any way that’s a southern red oak, Q. falcata?