Pot ID Help

[fourteener]

The First pot is an American Potter. Someone once told me they thought this potter used this on their early work and changed it to something else. I got the pot when I bought a ginko through Brussels.

The second pot rings like a bell truer than any other pot I have. It's almost a musical instrument. It seems to just have a signature and not a kiln stamp like other pots.

 

[fourteener]

So there is obviously some connection here with these pots as part of the marks are similar, but other parts aren't. This is why it's so hard to really tell what you have.

Is the pot made by the ancient dad whose works of art are limited and valuable, or by his incompetent son that everyone thinks has shoddy workmanship?!?!?! Or somewhere in between?

 

[Brian Underwood]

Those all look to be high quality, nice pots, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them were quite valuable. The second pot looks like Dale Cochoy but the signature is different... Maybe an earlier version? I'll keep thinking about it. The ginkgo leaf is Kouyou, Mr.AIBA Kouichirou... http://www.tokoname.or.jp/bonsai/catalog/maker-e.htm And the hand signatures may simply mean they are older or unique. Good stuff!

 

[Poink88]

All are very nice...and yes may potentially be rare and expensive esp the 2nd on the OP.

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Nice Koyo pots in the second post, as Mr. Underwood identified.
Those with fan stamps are considered his top works.

 

[Brian Underwood]

Here is a nice small one on eBay for reference; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Koyo-Shohin...107?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54012ecc93
Yours seem to be slightly larger, so most likely they're more valuable.

 

[fourteener]

Nice Koyo pots in the second post, as Mr. Underwood identified.
Those with fan stamps are considered his top works.

Love the blue!!

 

[Poink88]

Love the blue!!

I love your blue as well (pic #2 post #2)...all over actually, the shape and design is extremely nice. To me that is my favorite of the lot followed by the 2nd pic post #1.

 

[fourteener]

I have found out quite a bit from your help and recommendations to find help...

The blue pot was made by John Hudson. He was from Atlanta and has passed away. The glaze wasn't very common for him and the chop mark is indeed an early version of his work.

The Brown pot is a Deiju pot. I didn't get a lot of info on him, just that he is a modern day potter. Clean lines, details. Not a lot out there, but not sure why.

The Koyo pots... info from Matt Ouwinga The fan stamp and signature and means it was made under a Tokoname contract. If you see a half moon stamp it means he made it in his own kiln and sold it direct.

I asked if that changed anything about the value and he said no. It's a bit of a rumor that he stamped his better stuff. It makes sense, how could you tell if it was going to turn out better since you won't know til it's fired. Then it would be too late to stamp it.

 

[GrimLore]

Thank you for that information! I looked at hundreds of chop marks and could not match it up.

Grimmy

 

[nathanbs]

I have found out quite a bit from your help and recommendations to find help...

The blue pot was made by John Hudson. He was from Atlanta and has passed away. The glaze wasn't very common for him and the chop mark is indeed an early version of his work.

The Brown pot is a Deiju pot. I didn't get a lot of info on him, just that he is a modern day potter. Clean lines, details. Not a lot out there, but not sure why.

The Koyo pots... info from Matt Ouwinga The fan stamp and signature and means it was made under a Tokoname contract. If you see a half moon stamp it means he made it in his own kiln and sold it direct.

I asked if that changed anything about the value and he said no. It's a bit of a rumor that he stamped his better stuff. It makes sense, how could you tell if it was going to turn out better since you won't know til it's fired. Then it would be too late to stamp it.

I'm confused as I thought the item on the Koyo chop above was a ginko leaf? Is that what you are referring to as a fan? I thought the fan is what am posting above but then I'm thinking what i'm posting is being referred to as a half moon? To further add to things I am posting a Koyo with what appears to be a Mt. Fuji chop.

 

[fourteener]

I'm confused as I thought the item on the Koyo chop above was a ginko leaf? Is that what you are referring to as a fan? I thought the fan is what am posting above but then I'm thinking what i'm posting is being referred to as a half moon? To further add to things I am posting a Koyo with what appears to be a Mt. Fuji chop.

It could be a ginko leaf. Matt just started calling them hankos and I didn't clarify. The fan/ginko is different from the half moon and he didn't say and I didn't ask about Mt Fuji. I contacted him through his ebay store, you could go to his website and ask also. If you go through ebay you can attach your pics and he'll get back to you pretty quick. Let us know what he says!!

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Those are some beautiful pots you have there. When the time is right, maybe I'll be able to have some. I love the colors.

 

[rps]

i asked ryan bell about the "fuji" stamp a couple of years back (noticing it on both koyo-s and ino-s) and was told:

Good question. Yes, you'll see this mark on both Inos and Koyos. Westerners in the pot game call it the fuji stamp. It's actually the stamp of a nursery in Omiya who first consulted with Ino on pots, then, later, Koyo. So, pots with this stamp were custom made to order for this nursery. You'll note that for both Koyos and Inos, pots with this mark often have very high usability, that is to say, not their most outlandish work!