Radialayer™ a season saver.
- Thread starter sorce
- Start date
Nice, at what depth in the pot did you place the girdled portion of the branch?
Johnnyd
Shohin
I think its toward the middle of the pot.
R3x
Shohin
Will read it again and try to pay more attention. Last year I was airlayering a branch from very old pear - it's all corky and scaly - will provide photo tomorrow. Was using plastic bag. It eventually worked but this device looked it could make thing easier. As I wrote: bought these to try rooting Ume(s). I would consider myself lucky if they rooted. Having radial roots would be plus but first I need Ume(s) on their own roots.
R3x
Shohin
OK, here's few photos of my successful airlayering (albeit without Radialayer(TM)) just for illustration. While doing the layer I was using plastic bag and struggling with birds trying to get into it, checking the level of moisture, etc... However it seems the goal was met and the tree grows. Planning for it to be more penjing / literati style - tall and slender. Currently it has piece of board attached on the bottom to keep it stabilized until the roots get stronger. Also it is leaning on the wall to get more stability. Will resolve these with shallower and heavier pot in the future.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
R3x
Shohin
Thanx. It's originally been more or less horizontal branch. So the (sub)branches were going totally different directions. When the tree recuperates and starts growing I am planning on using and extending these strange movements. It had flowers but I cut off all of them to let the tree gain vigor and grow more roots. In few years I guess this could be nice.
John P.
Chumono
Looks good!
AaronThomas
Omono
BonjourBonsai
Chumono
Looks great! When did you start the air layer?
Last summer.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
The blue plastic in these photos.
Radialayer™ a season saver.
Nutters, You may have noticed I almost always jump to recommending airlayers. I don't think I will ever lose my fascination with the process. In attempts to perfect it, I have worked out some tweaks so it is time to share my method. I don't understand haphazardly throwing long...
It's like a tile or a board just on an airlayer.
Sorce
I should have added--thanks @sorce for the great idea. It really did save a year.
I seen the pictures. I was just wondering what the blue thing was. Now you tell me it's plastic and one can use a tile or board also. Thank you.The blue plastic in these photos.
Radialayer™ a season saver.
Nutters, You may have noticed I almost always jump to recommending airlayers. I don't think I will ever lose my fascination with the process. In attempts to perfect it, I have worked out some tweaks so it is time to share my method. I don't understand haphazardly throwing long...www.bonsainut.com
It's like a tile or a board just on an airlayer.
Sorce
What did you use @Zach2 ? It looks promising!
Trenthany
Chumono
Sorce sometimes I don’t know if you’re giving advice or screwing with us with waning moons, heat to do root work, and now snorting root powder! You crack me up. The disk thing is something I’ve been considering as a total noob not knowing what will and won’t work.
Another thought I had after this was split a bottle in half (you pick type) cut the neck off to fit right below cut and use it in lieu of container. Then pack sphagnum around bottle neck. In my head, not tested yet it would make horizontal air layering a even easier and function on vertical just as easy. Maybe my idea is insane. Or maybe reversing the bottle makes more sense and use the bottom to shape roots. Coke/Pepsi should give 5 evenly spaced clusters that will probably merge together. Gatorade etc would just be discs. Perhaps you have insight on my idea @sorce?
Trenthany
Chumono
Ooooh Tupperware using its lid would streamline. Would you cut extra holes radially around trunk in lid? Or just leave it sealed? In which case why bother with bottom just use disk and moss above and below to support wrap.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
The lid as a RadialDisk no.
Maybe the lid as a lid but not if it would dry too fast.
I don't observe things only I can observe!
Sorce
Trenthany
Chumono
Again it may be screwing with me but I believe you’re right about the waning moon thing based on the almanac. I know you cut a path through waist high grass at a “good” time then come back and mow the whole area at a “bad” time and the “path” will grow back at a slower rate. It’s true, crazy as that sounds to most people, we did it as an experiment at work. Cut the path to see if it grew slower, couldn’t tell, mowed the super fast growing grass a couple weeks later and when the grass was knee high you could see the trail still at inches. Hypothetically everyone wondering about shrinking foliage should look into this. I only have a few examples in my life, but the almanac systems have been backed by science too many times to discount everything in them.The lid as a RadialDisk no.
Maybe the lid as a lid but not if it would dry too fast.
I don't observe things only I can observe!
Sorce
On the lid idea I know it’s yours but I’m not sure I’m explaining correctly. If you wrap everything in plastic when you’re done then putting sphagnum above lid and using lid to train seems to make sense as I see it in my head. Think of the image with the pot shards holding sphagnum above The disk above the soil. That all got wrapped I believe? Why not skip the shards and just wrap it up tight against lid of a tupperware instead of adding the disk? I asked about additional holes because I wasn’t sure if the reason for the lower tupperware section except to provide somewhere for roots to wind up after radiating out and to store moisture?
edit spelling and clarity
Last edited:
