Rocky Mountain Juniper: No guts, no glory...

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Looks like a good bend to get what you needed there.

How about three years down the road how do you handle the large channel cut in the back of the leader? Just fill it with epoxy or cut paste or does it become a focal point somehow?
 

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Love the blog, thanks for another interesting entry!
Quick question: is there an ideal time to carve your trees? I would think it's within the first half of the growth season, but just want to see what you have to say about it. thanks :)
 

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Looks like a good bend to get what you needed there.

How about three years down the road how do you handle the large channel cut in the back of the leader? Just fill it with epoxy or cut paste or does it become a focal point somehow?

certainly no epoxy or cut paste (we never use the stuff) ... the deadwood will be refined and smoothed to become part of the focal point of the tree.... with any luck the live vein will have grown around it some as well in the healing process ...

@Bill S ... the bailing twine we use is plastic ... and as you say comes in a huge roll.... we usually roll out a couple dozen feet at a time and wrap that up and keep it in the tool bag .... the annoying orange color reminds you that you that its there so you don't lose the tree ...
 

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Hi ang...So you are planning to leave the wire in the channel and have it grow around it? Like they do with white pine grafted onto black...
 

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Hi ang...So you are planning to leave the wire in the channel and have it grow around it? Like they do with white pine grafted onto black...

nah ... the wire will be removed in a few years when the wrap is removed... the growth i was referring to is that its healing should add some interest and keep the live vein from being so straight looking ... it was actually twisted when moved so there is additional movement there .... the tree is strong enough to support itself without the wire... it was added for structural integrity while bending
 

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Sounds good.. and once again, this is very clean and top notch work...The orange doesn't really bother me. However, it may look different when you see it in person in the middle of all your other trees.:D

Rob
 

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There's not much I can say that has not been said already. Beautiful and courageous work. I can't wait to see this tree in a couple of years.
 

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nah ... the wire will be removed in a few years when the wrap is removed... the growth i was referring to is that its healing should add some interest and keep the live vein from being so straight looking ... it was actually twisted when moved so there is additional movement there .... the tree is strong enough to support itself without the wire... it was added for structural integrity while bending


like re-bar in concrete! amazing stuff
 

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Awesome job with a difficult tree! Amazing result, and I'm looking forward to seeing it in a year or two.
 

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Nice looking work, the bailing twine is a great idea for long term stuff like that. I pick it up around farms when I do work on their buildings. I had a piece I used to fasten a ladder as I lost the bungee cord in the pasture, before I knew almost two years had went by and I was still tying the ladder with the bailing cord! Finally I found a good buy on bungee cords at a flea market and replaced it.

Speaking of good buys, the silicone self fusing tape is commonly found in electrical supply stores and auto parts stores, its used for a multitude of stuff including wrapping a radiator hose that has burst, even Lowes and Home Depot carry it sometimes in their electric departments. Its usually no more than $6.00 though, I seen where the Bonsai store wanted $14.00 for it and was sticker shocked. I have never thougth to use it in that way, although I get reprimanded here for using stuff that is not specifically for Bonsai use with gems of wisdom such as this "Also, to save you time, disappoitnment and money. It in necessary to cultivate bonsai properly. This means using bonsai soil, pots that are made for bonsai, wire and tools that are for bonsai. For health reasons regarding bonsai..coming up household alternatives will eventually affect the health of the tree...", Yup, I am still reeling from the aluminum can screen I posted here !! ;)

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I'm REALLY happy people found this useful... I was hoping it would let people think about their material differently. Thanks for the support....

Al... I know Eric answered you, but one thing he didn't mention is that we've seen what this technique looks like decades down the road... it's almost impossible to tell it was done unless you are looking for it. And while that sounds like a long time to most, I don't think anything of it... without it being done, it would have been a waste of potential. So whatever it looks like between now and my old age is no biggie. I'm not in this for the short game. ;)

I think a serious problem in bonsai with many people is that potential in material gets blown or wasted because of our desire for instant results. My result will take a long time, but the right thing will have been done to it.

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Awesome job with a difficult tree! Amazing result, and I'm looking forward to seeing it in a year or two.

Brother... you have trees I am dieing to work on...lol So it'll be a win win the next time we see you... I hope you don't have noise ordinances. Three grinders can make a lot of noise. lol
 

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And while that sounds like a long time to most, I don't think anything of it... without it being done, it would have been a waste of potential. So whatever it looks like between now and my old age is no biggie. I'm not in this for the short game. ;)
All I have left is the short game......
 

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Good stuff Vic! I must have missed this thread last month. Very well executed with great results. Should be quite the tree when it's all wired up!
 

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this reminds me ..... the tree still seems to be alive and showing no signs of ill health .... not yet ..... even seems to have a little active growth ...
 

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this reminds me ..... the tree still seems to be alive and showing no signs of ill health .... not yet ..... even seems to have a little active growth ...

Please keep us updated! I for one am watching this one carefully. I have a tree that I want to try it on.
 
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