rooting hormone powder - cuttings

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http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-100645-Rooting-Hormone-4-Ounce/dp/B0049PLCS6

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with regular old miracle grow powder. Little tub is 5 bucks and I can trash it when done for austerity's sake, but before I start the chainsaw....

I've always had good luck with mg when using as directed and with reasonable expectations so I figured why not?
 

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I assume " but before I start the chainsaw...." is a joke ! :) The hormone root powders work fine on plants that will propagate fom cuttings, of course cuttings work on young shoots and occaisonally on slightly larger healthy twigs much larger than that and air layering is the route you want to take.

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Grim,
have you had good success with it? I think I recall Beng saying he had great results when compared to the powder. I picked up a jar of the clonex and will be trying it out but would love to hear your experience.

I have been using it for years helping my Wife with her collection and for six years on my collection. I never tried anything else as it has always given us great results. What I cannot tell you is if it makes any difference using it or not. We just plain use it and feel it works. The gel is in my mind a better way to go. I use it when we drill in Scions as well as any other "work" that requires roots including air layers. I am pretty certain you will be very pleased ;)

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I need to try this. You use it strait or mix it with soil? I always used the powder. Powder works but difficult.
 

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The gel sounds great, if it would coat and seal the wound that would be a bonus. Plus staying longer would be nice too, I always notice that after a few weeks the powder stuff has washed away.

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No problem, i've tried the different powders but have a 90+% success rate with the clonex gel. It has the acid you hear frequently about in rooting compounds but also contains B vitamins. You just poke little holes in the (ground/cutting tray) with a wire to the size of your cutting. Dip the cutting in the gel, stick it in the ground and press the dirty gently around it. They have a bigger size but this lasts me a full season each year. If you only root a few plants it could last a year or two although i'm not sure how long cutting gel stays potent.

http://www.amazon.com/Clonex-CLO100...ie=UTF8&qid=1387991104&sr=8-1&keywords=clonex

I root my cuttings in leftover akadama fines but sand works well for many.


Here was the post from Beng. Sounds promising.
 

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http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-100645-Rooting-Hormone-4-Ounce/dp/B0049PLCS6

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with regular old miracle grow powder. Little tub is 5 bucks and I can trash it when done for austerity's sake, but before I start the chainsaw....

I've always had good luck with mg when using as directed and with reasonable expectations so I figured why not?

I use that Miracle grow rooting powder. I have used it on all manor of hard wood cuttings- from Maples to Japanese Black Pines and had success with all. I have read plenty of people talk about the exact formulas and strengths you need to use on certain species... The end result in my opinion is that rooting hormone isn't the most important part, it is about how you treat the cutting after you put it in the dirt- keep it moist and happy and most plants will root fine with no powder/ liquid/ whatever.
 

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My experience has been that there isn't a huge noticeable difference between MiracleGro, Root-Tone and Clonex, but they are all a lot better than not using anything.
 

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Grim, would you use this to help root an air layer as well?
 

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I assume " but before I start the chainsaw...." is a joke ! :) The hormone root powders work fine on plants that will propagate fom cuttings, of course cuttings work on young shoots and occaisonally on slightly larger healthy twigs much larger than that and air layering is the route you want to take.

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I have been doing cuttings for 25 years in a large scale...long ago had no rooting powder here and never used anything...this days I have it and forget to use it...No 1,2 and 3...
I use honey or onion...Onion is best for airlayers and many masters in Asia use it.
I take cuttings 15 cm diameter...and they root. The trick is the thicker it is, the longer you cut it.
You can reduce it ones rooted.
Look at the cuttings behind the lady in a Zambian village.
 

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You just get a part of onion and rub it on the ring barked part. This method has been used for centuries in the east and very much used at present by professionals.
 

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I use honey or onion...Onion is best for airlayers and many masters in Asia use it.
I take cuttings 15 cm diameter...and they root.

You just get a part of onion and rub it on the ring barked part. This method has been used for centuries in the east and very much used at present by professionals.

Thanks Neli! (in more ways than one)

The onion is new to me...I will give that a try. Have you tried the potato trick?

I thought I am the only crazy one to use honey. I use it in tandem with rooting hormone though...making a paste out of it.

I've rooted 2"+ boxwood cuttings that way and also 4" yaupon holly. My only regret, I did not keep the yaupon and gave it away. :(

I wanted to share this story earlier but being tired of getting ridiculed & ostracized for my experiments, I decided not to. Thanks for giving me the "courage" again. :)
 

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I have pictures of some top professionals using onion...but with close to 500 000 pictures on my PC can not find them.
Onion is good! Well that is my experience.
I remove 100s of airlayers done with onion in sand...I dont have moss here.
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moss it ut on top so the soil is not washed during watering.
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Poincetia:
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This was just a cutting
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I just tie a black packet over a clear packet, seal it well...and dont water some trees at all till they are rooted...some I check ones in two month...and water if needed.
Airlayers recovering in my hospital area.
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hospital area with bags of soil covered not to get wet...Messy area. this s where I plant.
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My bonsai square slowly coming up.
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