Sadly...I think the wire scaring is to bad to consider

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This style though...always catches my eye. Though...the wire scars seem really bad. I would love a small flowering Shohin though. Any ideas where I could look to get one come spring? I think I just love the tall slender pot.

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cascade only? house of bonsai has some decent prices on shohin satsuki azalea on ebay.
 

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See I am new..."accident" ? See...mentally I know there is something off. But it must be the pot and the ideal of a cascade that catches my eye. Lol

What specimen is that ? Sorry I should of just said that the first time...

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Quick! Call Steve at Plant City Bonsai. He has a wisteria cascade that is showing flower buds.

That style of pot, however, is a poor choice. It's very hard to repot, especially if the roots become pot bound. Better to plant in a square pot, and use a stand. For training, wire the pot to a concrete block stood up on end.
 

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What is it? I don't the scarring is too too bad might fade away in a couple of years.
 

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Quick! Call Steve at Plant City Bonsai. He has a wisteria cascade that is showing flower buds.

That style of pot, however, is a poor choice. It's very hard to repot, especially if the roots become pot bound. Better to plant in a square pot, and use a stand. For training, wire the pot to a concrete block stood up on end.

Off to see if he has a website...wisteria is toxic...but noticing my Aussie leaves my potted plants alone.
 

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Off to see if he has a website...wisteria is toxic...but noticing my Aussie leaves my potted plants alone.

Our dog chews every toxic leaf it finds and for some reason does not chew or carry around wisteria *shrugs* does not bother with a few other none toxics as well. Must be an "acquired taste" :p

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I too love cascades, but good ones are hard to find. Most of the time when I create a cascade from purchased material, it is being sold/advertised as an informal upright. You must use your "bonsai vision" to see the potential in these trees to BECOME a cascade, or find the trees that easily lend themselves to this style. As for vendors I'm sure you could do this with just about any nursery. I myself have purchased multiple cascades this way from nurseries, vendors, auctions, and member sales areas of bonsai shows. These member sales areas often have material that has been given up on or forgotten about, the owners simply losing interest or motivation, and they can usually be purchased for little money (this is my secret to getting quality material for cheap ;).
 

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As for that tree, the wire scarring could be overlooked if the price is right. In my experience, crepe myrtles tend to have random dieback of branches which makes wiring and training for bonsai frustrating. All the work you put into growing a branch and the next year it could be gone.
 

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I too love cascades, but good ones are hard to find. Most of the time when I create a cascade from purchased material, it is being sold/advertised as an informal upright. You must use your "bonsai vision" to see the potential in these trees to BECOME a cascade, or find the trees that easily lend themselves to this style. As for vendors I'm sure you could do this with just about any nursery. I myself have purchased multiple cascades this way from nurseries, vendors, auctions, and member sales areas of bonsai shows. These member sales areas often have material that has been given up on or forgotten about, the owners simply losing interest or motivation, and they can usually be purchased for little money (this is my secret to getting quality material for cheap ;).

Thanks Brian...I have found it quite challenging. An informal...turned into a cascade ;) thanks for the awesome tip!
 

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I too love cascades, but good ones are hard to find. Most of the time when I create a cascade from purchased material, it is being sold/advertised as an informal upright. You must use your "bonsai vision" to see the potential in these trees to BECOME a cascade, or find the trees that easily lend themselves to this style. As for vendors I'm sure you could do this with just about any nursery. I myself have purchased multiple cascades this way from nurseries, vendors, auctions, and member sales areas of bonsai shows. These member sales areas often have material that has been given up on or forgotten about, the owners simply losing interest or motivation, and they can usually be purchased for little money (this is my secret to getting quality material for cheap ;).

I might add that many people "think" the process is difficult when in fact is just time consuming for most species.

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As for that tree, the wire scarring could be overlooked if the price is right. In my experience, crepe myrtles tend to have random dieback of branches which makes wiring and training for bonsai frustrating. All the work you put into growing a branch and the next year it could be gone.

Since that is a crepe myrtle...I had no idea they did random die back. :eek: what would you say to throw money out the window price range one should not go past?
 

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Plant City website:

Www.plantcitybonsai.com.

The tree is not on the site, it just came in yesterday. Call him, and he will send a photo. I was there as he took it out of the box. It will probably sell this weekend, as many people like to shop the new shipments.

Since I teach classes there, I got a preview.

He got in some nice zelkova a, and I will be leading a workshop (or series of workshops) on how to develop these for nebari and ramification.
 

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Plant City website:

Www.plantcitybonsai.com.

The tree is not on the site, it just came in yesterday. Call him, and he will send a photo. I was there as he took it out of the box. It will probably sell this weekend, as many people like to shop the new shipments.

Since I teach classes there, I got a preview.

He got in some nice zelkova a, and I will be leading a workshop (or series of workshops) on how to develop these for nebari and ramification.

I sent a PM on Facebook...I am home sick and cough horribly when attempting to talk right now. Is it a Shohin?
 

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As for that tree, the wire scarring could be overlooked if the price is right. In my experience, crepe myrtles tend to have random dieback of branches which makes wiring and training for bonsai frustrating. All the work you put into growing a branch and the next year it could be gone.

Hey Brian, are you having dieback from overwintering? Because I've never had any dieback on mine, but they are in a cold greenhouse overwintering situation. I have 2 (one from you... ;)) and neither one have lost any branches for the years I've had them..
 

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Hey Brian, are you having dieback from overwintering? Because I've never had any dieback on mine, but they are in a cold greenhouse overwintering situation. I have 2 (one from you... ;)) and neither one have lost any branches for the years I've had them..

That is good to know Judy...curious what brings on the dieback. Is it some sort of blight? Or cold damage from elements?
 

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That is good to know Judy...curious what brings on the dieback. Is it some sort of blight? Or cold damage from elements?
I wouldn't know what the problems would be other than cold. They are not cold hardy here, that's why the winter protection is important. If you have a yard planted one, they die back to the ground every winter in my area, yours too probably, although they do come back from the roots.
I have 2 and neither one of them has had any dieback issues.

Maybe Brian can tell us what has happened to his, I can't imagine it would be cold for him as he's in CA. Maybe something local to him.
 

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Judy...what zone are you? Though you do have the heated cold greenhouse. Hm-mmm

I found this googling...
Tree/shrub Tops Blacken, Die Back In Spring means Cold Weather
In some northern areas crape myrtles are victims of cold snaps which kill their tops. Their roots are generally cold hardy, however, so simply prune off the dead material early in the spring before growth starts. The plant will sprout new growth and bloom on schedule.


So they need their branches protected from cold it seems. :confused:
 
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