Schefflera ROR Project - Advice and Suggestions Needed

JD_SouthFL

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Here are some photos of a scheff that I've been working with lately. I put it over this piece of coral two growing seasons ago and moved it from a nursery pot to a training pot this season. It stands 11" tall, but I'd like to finish at 9-10".

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  • Picked this as the front in an attempt to hide the taper issue in the main trunk.

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BACK
  • In this image you can see the taper issue in the main trunk.

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I intend to grow it out in a clump style, inducing the growth of aerial roots in order to hide my taper issues and the "hole" in the nebari that is visible from the front.

I've been thinking about losing the lowermost left branch. It just starts too low, I think. I think that losing it would help to counterbalance the weight of the coral. Also, it detracts from the illusion of a tree that began to fall over and clung to the rock for support. However, I'll probably keep it for another few seasons as a sacrifice branch.

Here's a very rough virt of the direction in which I'd like to take this, square leaves and all ;)

I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions!

-JD
 

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I like your virt. I think I would let it grow out for a year or two then chop it back so that the trunk gets quite a bit thicker, then work on creating the canopy.
 
Coral is an appropriate rock for it to grow on, but I'd wish this was a much larger piece.

You're on the right track.
 
Hello JD SouthFL, welcome to the BNut house. I assume you are in South Florida? The best advice I can give you about these schefflera is go check out David Fukumoto's website FukuBonsai.com . He's located in Hawaii. There's a lot of good info and inspirational pictures of these bonsai on there.

About your tree, I will echo what JKL said, and that is it is too small. It will never grow in a small and compact look like that. Your vision for it is not realistic if you are aiming for a natural banyan style tree. The compound leaves on these schefflera are too big to fit into your design. If you want a classical banyan style tree, then your design needs to be much bigger. The fastest way to do that is to get a bigger rock and tie a bunch of small trunks together and let them grow freely for about 4-5 years in the ground. Then chop it back hard to about 24 inch and then start branch ramifications. In your climate, you should be able to get a really nice bonsai in only about 5-6 years.

I have seen super nice almost shohin size schefflera bonsai, about 9-10 in tall, but they are not of a classical banyan style, instead, in this size, they would have to be more of a bunjin style design with just few leaves. But they also need to be grown out in the ground freely for 4-5 years in order for them to acquire the grey bark of a mature tree and to lose the green color trunk.

Do a search here for pics of other schefflera too.
Good luck.
Si
 
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It will be difficult if not impossible to achieve that look at that small of aDSC_0042 copy.jpg size. This one is almost 6' across.
 
I like your virt. I think I would let it grow out for a year or two then chop it back so that the trunk gets quite a bit thicker, then work on creating the canopy.

Thank you for your reply. Where would you suggest making a chop?

Coral is an appropriate rock for it to grow on, but I'd wish this was a much larger piece.

You're on the right track.

JKL,
I agree; I have had this thought myself. Perhaps I will find a larger and more interesting piece of coral for this project.

Hello JD SouthFL, welcome to the BNut house. I assume you are in South Florida? The best advice I can give you about these schefflera is go check out David Fukumoto's website FukuBonsai.com . He's located in Hawaii. There's a lot of good info and inspirational pictures of these bonsai on there.

About your tree, I will echo what JKL said, and that is it is too small. It will never grow in a small and compact look like that. Your vision for it is not realistic if you are aiming for a natural banyan style tree. The compound leaves on these schefflera are too big to fit into your design. If you want a classical banyan style tree, then your design needs to be much bigger. The fastest way to do that is to get a bigger rock and tie a bunch of small trunks together and let them grow freely for about 4-5 years in the ground. Then chop it back hard to about 24 inch and then start branch ramifications. In your climate, you should be able to get a really nice bonsai in only about 5-6 years.

I have seen super nice almost shohin size schefflera bonsai, about 9-10 in tall, but they are not of a classical banyan style, instead, in this size, they would have to be more of a bunjin style design with just few leaves. But they also need to be grown out in the ground freely for 4-5 years in order for them to acquire the grey bark of a mature tree and to lose the green color trunk.

Do a search here for pics of other schefflera too.
Good luck.
Si

Si,
Thank you for your warm welcome as well as your informative advice. You are correct in that I am located in South Florida.

I have made a point of it to read every single webpage on the Fuku Bonsai website. Talk about a wealth of knowledge! I often find myself going back to the website and studying it in my downtime. I have also read every thread on B-Nut containing the word "schefflera".

I don't think that JKL was referring to the size of this plant, but rather the size of the piece of coral I have placed it on. Perhaps I am incorrect. JKL, could you chime in on this?

Fusing several young scheffleras would certainly create a very interesting and desirable look. You may have inspired me to begin a new project. ;)

Perhaps my goal of 9-10" is idealistic. Most schefflera banyans that I have seen in this size have canopies that appear rather immature, and that is not the image I am trying to acheive. A finished height of around 15" would be more viable.

I have only ever seen "bunjin" style scheffleras larger than 9-10", but I imagine such a design could be accomplished in a smaller size. None of the people whom are in my area and who work with this species have trees like you are describing. However, I have seen larger "bunjin" style scheffleras on the Fuku Bonsai website. It is quite an attractive design.

It will be difficult if not impossible to achieve that look at that small of aView attachment 37358 size. This one is almost 6' across.

Agraham,
Thank you for the fair warning! Fortunately, a very healthy and prolific scheff can stand to be defoliated up to twice in a year (and partially defoliated on a nearly constant basis). It also helps to live in an area with a 365 day growing season :cool:

As such I am fairly confident that I can keep the foliage miniaturized once I have developed a more mature branch structure. However until I am able to develop the branch structure that I desire I will have a plant that looks very young and immature, with large leaves and a thin canopy.

Irregardless, I will take this "difficulty" in stride and accept it as a challenge.

-JD
 
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I'd also like to say thank you to all who have replied thus far. I am very new at posting to this forum and am excited by the generally willingness for members to lend their insight and expertise.

-JD
 
JD, go out and buy a 15 gallon size old schefflera, the biggest oldest one you could find ( about $50-100- most older nurseries have them laying around out back) then chop it back hard. Don't throw away the cuttings. Root the cuttings and each one can be a small tree in 2-3 years. Then clump some of the small rooted cuttings together to make a bigger tree. You could also fuse the rooted cuttings back onto the original mother tree too. The trunks could never actually fuse together like ficus or elms, but the new aerial roots could fuse and hide the gaps. It is a very feasible 5-year plan. If I live in Florida, I would do a ton of these and other tropical bonsai.
Si
 
JD, go out and buy a 15 gallon size old schefflera, the biggest oldest one you could find ( about $50-100- most older nurseries have them laying around out back) then chop it back hard. Don't throw away the cuttings. Root the cuttings and each one can be a small tree in 2-3 years. Then clump some of the small rooted cuttings together to make a bigger tree. You could also fuse the rooted cuttings back onto the original mother tree too. The trunks could never actually fuse together like ficus or elms, but the new aerial roots could fuse and hide the gaps. It is a very feasible 5-year plan. If I live in Florida, I would do a ton of these and other tropical bonsai.
Si

Si,
Thank you for the advice. I'm sure that I could create an impressive and large banyan by using this technique that you describe. It also imagine that this technique would lend itself to creating something like the "welded" styles done by the Fukumotos TadsRipple1.jpg, but certainly not in the 5 years that you're talking about.

Perhaps I could find some unwanted, mature house plants/office plants.

-JD
 
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It will be difficult if not impossible to achieve that look at that small of aView attachment 37358 size. This one is almost 6' across.

Sooo .. right you are .. I vote on stickin it in the ground and let her rip .. :cool:
this is about the same size.. There is a dwf variety which works for smaller bonsai.
 

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